Investor Strategy Call – July 19, 2023

Recording in progress. Good morning, Kevin. How’s it going there? Oh, going great. How about yourself? Good. Yeah, just, yeah, just been busy. Been busy. Fortunately, we got your, what’s it called, your investor intro. So that’s going out today. So we just got that in late last night. My investor intro. Yeah, exactly.

Because I think there was a request. Um, for investor intros for yourself. Yes. And then also, um, I, um, there’s a few adjustments that needs to, um, made to the pitch deck, uh, like they just want to switch out a few pictures and then also the order in which we have the pictures with the directors and everything.

And then also I have the one one biography for, uh, Robert Allen. Uh, my, uh, my, my advisor, we don’t, we don’t have his, his, um, I didn’t, I have to update his, his, uh, biography and then also, um, they, the support gave access to my, um, my, my administrative team. They have access, however, I don’t know how do, how do they log in?

How do, how do they. Because I, I just, I submitted my, their emails, but beyond their emails, now when we go to, uh, come to the platform. They put the email in and what else they have, like a password or whatever. Yeah. So, so what should have happened is that they should have gotten a notification right to their emails.

So like, for example, Tammy, I remember there was Tammy and a few others. So Tammy at whatever. com, they’ll get an email saying, Oh, here’s your email and password to log in. And then when they log in, then they see this screen in front of me right here. Uh, and then they should be able to get access to the investor database from there.

So. Okay, perfect. Yeah. All right. Exactly. All right. So that’s all I have for right now. Um, but now with the team with my team as we’re working on. Doing the, uh, the intros and everything. I wanted to have them speak with you. So, do I set like a appointment? Because I don’t want to take up the time with the rest of the group.

Oh, yeah. So, for that, they’re really just like people who are, they’re kind of like clones of you. So, they can book either myself or whoever’s available if I’m not around. They just can book, they can actually just come to these calls or they can come on a one on one call. That’s not a problem. Okay. So they actually come to these calls.

Okay. Yeah. And sometimes they’ve had, I’ve had people’s teammates just come on the calls and then, uh, and then somebody else, maybe that they’re working on another deal, they’ll just proceed with something else. So that’s no worries at all. All right. So, yes, so primarily roles and so she’ll she’ll more than likely come to the call today.

So I’ll let you go with the, um, 1 of the other in the order of whoever else came on and when we just joining in. Okay, perfect. And as a close, um, yeah, next step for you is you can just look out for your email. You’re going to start seeing some introductions come through and then. Uh, and then really the V.

A. S. are really supposed to follow raises the com slash instructions. And then that would tell them, oh, log in, go do this, ask your leader this. And then what happens that if they get confused and they just come back to us anyway, and then we could get them on the right track. And if there’s a problem, then we get them back on the right track.

So it’s just a little. Basically, they’re just still bothering us and then we just course correct or supply more investors and then they go out course, correct. And there’s the same process over and over again. Okay. Perfect. Perfect. Good stuff. All right. Thanks. No worries. Cheers. All right. So, after Kevin, it was Roger.

I think you may be on mute.

Hi, how are you? Can you hear me? Good. Yeah, I can hear you. How’s it going? Okay, sounds good. Uh, yeah. Oh, um, yeah, I was just checking in. So I have good news actually to share. Um, so 1 of the companies I founded, uh, named crowd fleet incorporated, um, it’s incorporated in Delaware. It was, um, we were recently admitted to a program called electrify California.

And that is held by, um. The Sacramento Asian chamber of commerce, so it’s pretty exciting program. It’s a 12 week program. We’re in our 2nd week. It’s all about a fleet electrification. The grid, uh, sustainability. Um, and electric vehicles. Nice. Yeah. And so how long is the when it’s a program start? And how long is it?

It started last week. Um, and the meeting is actually, you know, it’s actually at 11, um, pacific time. So, um, it’s for 12 weeks and it’s talking about, um, since it’s held by the chamber of commerce, I can send the website later. But it’s, um, it’s about business procurement, government contracting, uh, fleet electrification.

Um, so it’s, it’s a pretty exciting program. Uh, it’s great network. Um, and it’s very instructive on, on how, what, what is a difficult topic to understand, right? For me, like I don’t have much experience with government contracting. Well, I do have experience with real estate contracts, but government contracts are very new to me.

So the process is. This is a big learning curve. Nice. Well, well, congrats. And one thing that I noticed, uh, some other people that we worked with that got into accelerators. So now that you’re in, um, now, now you have to be 1 of the, the best people in that accelerator. So, uh, congrats for getting in, but now the next challenge is also becoming, like, 1 of the top companies in that accelerator.

So, so anyway, so yeah, I would say I am, I probably am, um, most definitely in the top 10%. I would say of the anyway, hopefully, I don’t know much about everyone else, though, I don’t know. No, that’s good. So how could I best support you in this? Um, because, um, I mean, are there some things that we can help with the marketing side or while you’re in it?

Um, actually, you know, um, to be fair, we’re still figuring out the business model, right? Because, um, and I, I have a presentation ready. Um, I could send you like the pitch, uh, like the pitch email and the pitch deck. Did you want to see that? Please? Yeah. I’ll, I’ll personally take a look and then I’ll bounce it back between, um, David Donovan as well.

So if you send it to support at razor. com, then I will provide her feedback. We’ll try to be devil’s advocate to see if we can, uh, look for, you know, places where it can be improved as well, for sure. Oh, yeah, go ahead, because, um, I’ve I’ve already started sending it out, but it’s it’s low numbers. I’ve sent out probably less than it’s really low right now.

Fair enough. Yeah, so, um, yeah,

I’ll send the email to support raises dot com after. Um, but, yeah, it’s, it’s exciting. So back to the business model question, right? I think the main issue from. Let’s try and take it a couple of ways, right from the consumer issue. Um, a lot of people want electric vehicles, but one there, there’s ranges. I get anxiety to there’s many, not many charges available.

3, the cost difference from what they, they have, and the cost of electric vehicles, either new or used. Um, and also things like EV tax credits understanding those things. Um, so that’s on the consumer, um, purchasing an EV side, but on the rental side, there’s a lot of people renting EVs. I heard from a friend that, um, you know, EVs are hard to rent and they’re basically ran out of stock in some areas.

So we know that there’s demand. Um, so if you, uh, car rental is, I think, a fantastic business, um, because I don’t expect much, I expect less maintenance than a gasoline powered fleet, right? If if 1 had an EV fleet, well, and, um, and does this business model depend on, um, raising a lot of up friends venture capital first MVP.

I, I believe the MVP is actually already, uh, not the MVP, but, um, if crowd fleet just mimicked what other people have done on, on YouTube, you can go on YouTube, type in Turo, like Turo fleet rental. Oh, I’m familiar. I used it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love it. I love it. It’s way better than renting cars. So I love it. Oh, that’s good.

Yeah, because I’ve heard like, um, there’s people on Turo with YouTube videos who said they have 85 cars and they’re clearing like 100, Wow, that’s hilarious. It’s awesome, right? Oh, I’m sorry. Can, can, can I jump in? Cause I actually have a couple of clients who are thorough, you know, who, who, who does that?

Everything. Um, I would say be mindful of the current. Market because a lot of them, you know, I had one client, he was making like 300, 000 and I had another one who’s, you know what I mean? They were just making a lot of money and they, they’re starting to diversify because, you know, um, the market is kind of, you know, going down.

I mean, we’re in a, a high inflationary period. Um, keep on making that, you know, people are, are living paycheck to paycheck. So a lot of people aren’t really doing that. I would say though, Okay. Um, and of course, Roger, you and I can talk about this, uh, privately if you want, um, but I would say you should look into a, you should look into a subscription model because there was this one company a couple years ago, they were looking, they were looking to raise, I think, maybe 80 million or something like that.

I can’t remember what it was. They didn’t have enough information for me, so I didn’t feel comfortable. Um, yeah.

But yeah, I would, I would, I would say, I would say you should kind of look at that you should think look deeper into it, of course, but just think about it because either the margins are slimming down or like the market slightly drying up because it may be a little bit over saturation because, you know, everybody and their grandmother during the pandemic wanted to jump into business.

And the tour business was a low, was a low barrier of entry. Yeah, exactly. So I’ll take this, um, in two points, I guess. Um, first one would be, um, there’s a scalability issue. Like, a lot of people, maybe they have four, they can, like, start with two cars and they go up to ten cars. Right. But at a certain point, there’s a scalability issue.

Um, and there’s one side. And at the other side, it’s obvious that there, there’s, could be a lot of people that can copy the model if it’s on YouTube. Right? Um, and back, so, um, anyway, that was two points on the first one. A and B. Um, the second one, for the subscription model, when I said I’m with you on that, um, yeah, I like that model.

I could say, like, for example, We do know that people roughly drive like 1000 miles, uh, like 12, 000 miles a year. Let’s say, right. So apologies for using miles, but, um, let’s say that’s 1000 miles a month subscription could be like, okay, we’ll allot you 250 miles per month for a certain fee. Right.

And that could be done, but that would require things like an app, maybe an app, or, um, you know, it would be off Turo. It would be its own ecosystem, right? Like more of the Netflix of cars, right? It’s good. It’s pretty good. Kind of, kind of, no, it’s not really. Yeah. Yeah. I was just like, you know, like I said, I was just kind of throwing that out there and everything, because I know, you know, um, when you’re doing market research and everything, you know, I’m just letting you know from a, Oh, I have clients in the space, so I kind of like know kind of what’s going on from the inside perspective, but okay.

No, no, no, no, I love, congratulations on getting in the accelerator. Yeah, thank you. So, um, for what it’s worth, I’m, I do know that obviously there’s a lot of Turo hosts and I’m way behind, right? Because that this probably started before COVID, right? All of this, um, at least the early adopters, right? We’re pre COVID.

Um, for Turo, I guess. Um, you know, I’m not looking exactly to compete with them, right? Because it’s not really about that. Um, because from my perspective, I see a proliferation of platforms, right? I see DoorDash, Uber, Lyft. Um, and you get more esoteric. There’s like, um, Amazon flex, there’s, um, Walmart, um, spark, right?

There’s delivery apps by, um, retailers as well, right? Where they have drivers, um, deliver for like Walmart, right? So

the EV fleet and also gig delivery drivers, there’s a big, like, um, business issue there that still has to be worked out. That’s why I said the model’s evolving. Because I’m not exactly sure, right? Like, for startup cash flow, renting on Turo would be good, but developing an app would be more sustainable long term, maybe, unless the, the app becomes uncompetitive, right?

Um, so yeah, I guess that’s, these are just kind of early thoughts. Also, there could be, like, um, I could just decide to pivot and talk, and talk about, like, charging infrastructure, right? Installing chargers and not worrying about Turo at all, right? Or it could be natural gas buses or electric trucks, right?

I could, um, reach out to U Haul maybe and then see about, um, U Haul franchise and electric U Haul. I don’t know if that makes any sense, but you get the idea, right? There’s a lot of pivoting that can be done in the auto industry, you know?

Well, I’m happy that you’re flexible because like, especially at this time, pre, I guess, sort of like in this early product mode, you know, I think the flexibility is that you need it because… You just have to talk to the market and let the market tell you what they want. Um, but listen, I think this was pretty productive and just to make sure I cover the others.

Like, uh, we can take a deep dive into that business model for sure. Uh, and it just takes time to, uh, you know, take your time to just go through what we think. And then, and as long as, like, you’re flexible based on what the customers are telling you. I think the customers are even more important than the investors at the stage, and then the investors would just back up.

What is the customers have already agreed to pay for the, uh, for the service. But good. Congrats. And then, um, and anything else before I jump to, I think it’s Elijah who just wanted know, uh, just to close it up on, I guess the need. Yeah. I believe that the ev electrification of the United States fleet is about 6%.

So right now, and by 2030, they want to take it up to a hundred percent electrified fleet or at least, um, clean fleet. Right. So electric or hydrogen or natural gas. Um, so I would just close it with that right now. We’re at 6. We need to get to a lot later, but I yield my time. Thank you. Sir. Derek. Yeah, there’s a lot of time to go.

So, you know, thanks for Derek as well for stepping up and helping out. Sounds good. All righty. So I believe if I’m not mistaken, it was Elijah then Greg. And then afterwards for Derek and Rose and Tammy. Hey, Natu, how you doing, man? Good. I did, uh, want to circle back on a conversation we had, um, I think it was a couple weeks ago.

Um, on, uh, on our website, we, there’s like this invest now, um, button. And, um, you were telling us about, uh, an investor script and, um, you know, that first, that first call could be just more so, uh, qualifying them. Yeah. And I, and I wanted to know, uh, cause you said there was like a link or something like that, that you would be able to send also just to, to, um, kind of verify if they are accredited investor before they even go through it.

The, the, the pipeline and, um, you know, and we, you know, make that first, uh, that first contact with them. Um, but yeah, I just wanted to know, uh, if you were able to, um, help out with that. Oh, yeah, definitely. But then, uh, just to show you before I. Okay, this is more portfolio just to show you the contacts. All right.

So, I mean, here’s an example of a form. So then this is exactly the form we set up for, um, Joshua Williams. And for Joshua Williams, so what they have going on here, this is they have a contact form, and then they also have a booking form. So basically, it’s like, this can be on Calendly. com or it can be ongoing level.

We’re just all we’re saying is we asked them how serious they are. Basically, it’s like, are they open and willing? Uh, how much, like, what are they considering to invest this is more optional, but they decided to put that in and if they’re accredited. Okay, with the description at the bottom, so that’s all and there’s actually a legal obligation to.

Do this in one form of another anyway, and another anyway, I mean, you look at grass curtain website. It’s the same So the quick answer is right. Yeah, the quick answer is I mean some people they come to us They already have their website set up and then you know We just dig in to go out like we can even do it right now We dig into go I level in or whatever website service you’re using get a calendar up I’m accredited before they’re able to book a call.

That’s one way The other way is if you contacted contact them without them booking a call, and you just do a cold call, or we hire somebody that does a cold call for you, then we’re just doing the, uh, scripts where we’re asking them. Oh, by the way, this is only for accredited investors. Uh, I mean, is that something you’re familiar with, you know, and then just to qualify if they’re accredited and if so.

You know, then it’s to book them in with the, uh, with yourself or the founder, whatever, uh, for that second call that is more serious. And then you’re going over to subscription agreement. So, so that’s pretty much it. And, uh, and where’s everything website right now, by the way? Uh, yeah. So it’s at, uh, solar investor fund.

com. Um, uh, Yes. Okay, cool. So then you go here. Um, so yeah, the buttons don’t work right now, but, um, okay. Oh, yeah, I forgot. I got on that one there. But yeah, definitely want to use those those buttons to, uh, you know, if someone was to go to the site and want to go through the process of scheduling a meeting or just want to just.

Invest at that, at that time, um, having that, having that, uh, in store. Cause I know how important it is to make sure that the investors are accredited. Yeah, no, it’s very, so you want to share your screen and we can actually just go into your account and leave if you want. And, um, and I can just implement it right now, if you like.

Yeah, yeah, um

Okay, let me allow for screen share.

Um, i’m on my phone. This is probably like

Okay, okay, so I mean well, I mean if you’re on your phone, I mean, I mean, yeah Either you can come back in the zoom room or I mean we can do it later or I mean I’m not in a huge rush here. Okay. Yeah, let’s let’s do it later. Let’s do it later I don’t want to waste any more time. Oh, yeah, that’s definitely something that uh That’d be good to do though.

Yeah. Yeah. So all this because the idea is like when we start the outreach You know, they’re booking if they book on your website, then they call, they check that box, see if they’re accredited. And then it’s kind of like selling the products. Like, if we’re saying, if you just look at even our website, we’re just saying, hey, do you want to create a private equity fund?

Or do you want to raise capital? Yes, or no. And then we don’t, we’re not, we don’t have to have a credit investors or anything. And then we’re like, are you open and willing to create a private equity fund? Yes. And if so, you know, then they’re booking the call with the, uh, with with us and then we have 1 of our people ask.

Oh, hey, um. They ask the same questions on the, on the forum, and then they also ask the financial qualification question and we structure that way because most people, they don’t even know, like, what, like a lot of people, honestly, most people don’t even know what a fund is or anything. So we have to explain to them and then they have to understand what it is.

So, okay, if we can, you know, like, would you be open to, or would you be against, you know, the service fee that we charge if it makes sense for your situation? Yes or no. And then the next step say, okay, and then they go with me, or it goes with another sales rep, whatever sales rep is available and then. Um, and we do the same thing.

And then this method came from, um, it actually came from consulting. com. Like Sam ovens, his company used to, uh, mentor tons of people, uh, even in the capital raising space on, uh, qualifying people. And so that’s just a quick background, but it works really well. So, uh, so you definitely want to, uh, get implemented like ASAP.

Okay. Okay. We’ll do, we’ll do. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. No, no worries. Any, anything else? No, no, no. That was, that was it. All righty. All right. So after. Greg, how’s it going? You, uh, listening back or you got something, uh, on the table? Yeah,

no, I’m just working on a couple of things. Um, just phone a conversation. You had, I think it was on 1 of these calls. You’re talking about some, uh, investment banking groups that you were familiar with, um, in castle placements and young American capital.

Yeah, the best ones I know are, um, so there’s a fellow called Andrew Damon. He paid for a ton of them. I paid for, uh, I paid for there was Dalmore. Uh, I use that one. They’re pretty, they’re okay. Let me write them down for you. But a few of them are, um, so then Cambridge. Wilkinson let us know if you want some intro, but then they’re more, um, their success Say again.

I think they’re more high cost more or something or more higher end or million plus only Um their success fee, but then they only take like a few deals that are the best that they can get So the thing is that they don’t charge anything, but then it’s hard to get them to work with you Uh, and then there’s 25 million dollars plus and then outside of that then there’s a castle Placements they are around.

Um, I think they’re between they’re not cheap. They’re between 20 to 35 K. Uh, I got, I have reports. My business partner, Andrew Damon used them. I heard that their newsletters are pretty silly, like, they just send out basic newsletters, but in the context that got the newsletters are really reputable investors.

So, I mean, those investors were pretty good. Um, so he’s good. There’s also, um. I want to make sure I get the correct name. So there’s Delmore,

Delmore. Okay, uh, up front fee or is that just. Oh yeah, these guys, so these guys are up front. So these guys are up front plus success. This guy is success only. So Cambridge Wilkin is success only. CalSAT placements is up front plus success fee. Uh, for fyi. So then Delmore is pretty good. Yep. No, no, go ahead.

I was, I was asking the question to the, so these guys charge to raise the money, is that right? Uh, Nate. Yeah. And, and I’m, I’m not recommending that everyone go here and send tons of money to all these guys. I’m just answering Greg, Greg’s question about the, the good way. Yeah, no worries. Um, so, so Delmore is, uh, I can’t really remember.

I think it’s between 4K to like 15 K, something like that. They do mostly Reg A, uh, they’re okay. And then there’s um, young America Capital, they do, um, pre-revenue, uh, early stage, and then their fees, 4K plus success fee. So I know that these people are okay, but the only disclaimer is that I mean, I mean, they’re not guaranteeing anything and it’s not really like a service.

It’s more of just capital raising only mostly. Um, so I don’t know. So I think based on this, I think Castle and Cambridge may be the 2 best ones because I know that Alvin and Andrew Damon both recommend Castle and, um, Cambridge and just make sure you check out. We have this whole list. The do not engage list because sort of people that, as you know, that those are the people that they take 100, 000 and then they don’t do anything.

So, like, I know, 8 people that have done that. So, you know, there’s some list of people not to engage.

Yeah, I’m not trying to figure out who’s the good and who’s the bad and who’s the terrible to stay away from. I was just kind of curious about, you know, what the American capital since there’s more startups and what they did. For, um, yeah, just what their costs were and what they could do if they’re just capital raising so they just send out and try to find investors.

They don’t offer any, um, like private placement or any other

documentation set up. Like, I’m not even sure. I think, um, I think that there are two categories. There’s some people that what they do, so I guess there are three categories. There’s some people, what they do, they, they take on deals. So, most of the deals I noticed, they already have all that in place. So, they would accept people who already have that in place, but then they would also accept people who don’t have that in place.

A consultant that is like us, you know, we only take deals that don’t have it in place 99% of the time. Um, you know, because to us, it makes more sense. And then there are some people that only take on deals that They haven’t raised any capital before they come in, like, for example, Cambridge, Wilkinson, they want to take on a deal that already raised some cap, like, let’s say, like, I need to raise 30, 000, 000.

I’ve already raised 25, 000, 000. I’m looking for the last 5, 000, 000. So Cambridge, like, a lot of them don’t seem to like deals like that because they want to be able to take the whole success fee. And then you’re just wasting time of somebody who would probably like, they’ll close the deal anyway. So that’s just one thing I’ve noticed.

The second thing is that to answer your question, yeah, they would take on deals that don’t need it. They would take on deals that do need to set up. So I think they would just do both based on my comments

or do not engage. Engage, but I know I think they’re all pretty good. Um,

yeah, they’re all pretty good. Like,

and the setup is pretty like, uh, you know, don’t forget that we can do all the setup anyway, because it can be a bit redundant if you’re doing set up with us and then you’re doing stuff with them and then they go and tell you to get a lawyer to sometimes they engage you and then they tell you to get your own lawyer to do the, uh, to pay for your own closing fees.

So, then that’s the 3rd thing. So just make sure that you’re not triple dipping. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. No, I just wanted some clarification what they, what they’re doing and stuff. So. Cool. That’s, that’s about it for me for today. Really. Cool. Good stuff, man. So, uh, so same, same as always. Just whenever there’s anything, uh, you know, always Liz though.

All right. So then afterwards we have, um, so Rose,

rose, and Rose Rose is with me. Okay. Okay. Understood. Understood. Same Tammy’s with you as well. Right. All right. Okay, cool. Yeah, whenever, whenever they have a question, uh, yeah, they can always like either this color. If you go to book help called, there’s a 1 and 1 right at the bottom. And then, uh, uh, if you just wait for it to load it right at the bottom 1 and 1 support call, they can jump on this, uh, or they can just email it as well.

So it’s good to have Rose and Tammy on here. Good stuff. So, uh, sir, Derek, I

think you may be on music. You’re speaking. Uh, yeah, I was trying to trying to take it off. Um, yeah. So I mean, updates on what’s going on here. So you remember I was saying that he was having an issue with the broker and setting up the meeting. So I just did a small calling campaign. So I called all the sign up.

Getting a list of all the banks, uh, in the area and I am contacting them, finding the bank that was, uh, for sale. And I’ve, uh, you know, you know, I was talking to them and everything. Uh, you know, we kind of gotten past first point. We signed the NDA and, um, we’re, we will have a meeting with them tomorrow with the CEO tomorrow.

Nice. Okay. This is for a fine. Can you hear me? I can. It was just a bit laggy.

Oh, I’m sorry. Hold on that too. Yeah. Oh, okay. Now what were you saying? Yeah. I was just asking if this is to find a deal that this is to originate the deal to find a deal you want to buy. Right? Yes. Yes. Yes. So, yeah. So this is the, uh, yeah. One of the banks are for sale. So. We are, um, so we’re gonna start, start the process, um, you know, kind of have a conversation with them.

See if we, you know, we like each other and then they’ll, uh, you know, kind of we’ll start a due diligence process if everything, if everything gets out to our liking on both sides. Nice. Okay, nice. And do you have, I guess my only concern is, is also like, do you think you have like a, uh, a big enough abundance of these, these deals though?

Because, uh, I’m sensing that based on the conversations I had with you, it looks like they’re very, uh, like there’s like a finite, really finite number here, you know? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It’s, it’s slim. It’s slim.

Cut off there.

Oh, hello.

Did I lose you? Okay. Be right. Okay. Uh, I think the internet went out for a bit

then. Hello. So, yeah, so I’m so I’m trying to at least have. For in the pipeline. Am I lagging again? You’re fine. It could have been me I’m not sure but I can hear you now. So if we can start over from two minutes ago, please. Okay. So, um, so yeah So we have so we have four prospective banks that we’re looking at now that’s in our price range So this one is the first one that we’re gonna be talking.

We’re gonna be talking with So, uh, three of them are from Puerto Rico and the other one is from, uh, like Wisconsin or something like that. No, not Wisconsin. Um, Wyoming. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So, I mean, yes. Yeah. I mean, that, that is a concern for sure that, you know, trying to make sure the pipeline is big enough.

But for our primary. You know, there’s not that many banks that come up for sale in that price range. So, you know, well, you know, we’re just going to have to, you know, we’re just going to have to figure it out and everything, but I do believe, I mean, you know, we’ll, we’ll see how the conversation go. I know talking with the CEO and I was kind of, you know, give her all the, Hey, you know, all the information and kind of all the stuff that we’ve, um, you know, kind of been through with the other brokers, cause we would have had this conversation two, three weeks ago, but you know, We was having an issue with the broker.

So I don’t know if you got our offer, you know, and everything. Um, so, you know, so she wanted to set, you know, set up the deal quick. They have no, they have a couple other interesting parties, but no one has. Show me a serious, um, uh, show me, you know, like had no one sent a, you know, a letter of intent or anything like that.

It’s just more conversations and stuff like that. Um, so what I’m working on also, if we like the deal and what I want to do is I’m, I want to set up a, either a convertible LOI. So meaning it’ll convert once we either, um, you know, if we choose to move forward, it’ll convert to a binding LOI once we. You can put the money down the escrow or we buy, you know, um, uh, uh, reps and warrants insurance or something like that for the, you know, you know, to, to, to cover the amount and everything.

And then we can kind of start going through that whole, uh, regulatory process, you know, and everything. So, but ideally I’m trying to get the, at least the non binding, um, the convertible, uh, uh, LOI so that that make it a lot easier to raise capital because then it’s kind of like, Oh, you know, Hey, we have a deal on the table.

You know, it’s signed, you know, it’s going to convert, you know, what, what, you know, once we do certain things and stuff like that. So we start getting commitment letters from, uh, investors, but we can expect them to release more. Okay. Got it. So, I mean, the only one question I have is because there was a shift over to more debt.

So can you tell me about the, uh, speak to me about the capital stack that you’re looking for for this one? Because, um. Uh, you know, you’re focusing more on the line of credit. So how does that work? So you use them in regards of how we’re going to raise or or the on the regulatory side how how it how it Needs to show up Well more more just more just the reason because I mean i’m just used to I mean you have like An ltv and then there’s like the equity part.

There’s a debt part. Uh, so then the only question I had was Like, like what is like the new, like, what’s the, what LTVs are there for buying? So is it the typical, uh, what maybe half is debts and half is equity or, or is it because you need the capital to keep in the reserves? That’s why you’re using the line of credit for the 10 million.

So just because I was a bit, uh, it’s been a little bit of time since I, uh, went into the model. Okay. Yeah. So ideally what we’re looking at is a, I mean, we can do the full deadline, how we can structure it. Is using the, uh, is to the, um, so let’s say we get a deadline of kind of 10 million, 15 million, you know, right.

Let’s just call it 15 million. How we want to structure is that we do that through the holding company and the holding company can then can then take that capital of course, and infuse it into the bank. So this equity in the bank, um, it’ll be debt through the holding company. And everything. And I believe, and I’m sure we can get past, uh, the regulators.

We’re structuring it like that. I mean, I’m not, I’m not too particularly worried about that particular part. So, um, that’s one option, of course, if we were to, if we were to do it like that. But then also, you know, we could totally, you know, uh, raise 10, 10 million as a deadline. And then, you know, maybe 5 million or even less than that, maybe like 2 million as a, um, from the equity side.

Cause I mean, you know, we have an existing customer base. So once we, uh, spin everything up, we should start making, uh,

sorry, uh, the burn rate for, uh, the line of credit should, uh, should actually go down. Got it. So, so then, okay. So it’s kind of, so you take, sorry, I’m sorry. I’m out and about. No worries, it was a bit choppy. So you’re taking a loan from, in one company, and then you’re lending that out to another company, and then it’s going to show up on the balance sheet as equity in that second company, I mean, it’s funny, I do the same thing, just on a smaller scale, but, with my companies, but not as big on a scale, obviously, but, um, okay, but the question is more like, that makes sense, but the question is more, okay, a bank cost, let’s say the bank is 10 million to acquire, Right.

Well, you know, a lender would probably lend, you know, like a certain percentage of the value of that bank. And then would it not be just a normal raise, like in that sense of just like getting the equity down payments and then getting the rest of the debt to get it done? Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, you can have a structure like that.

Or, you know, you can have a structure where it’s kind of like, oh, you have, um, you know, and that’s why when I was talking to you before, at least in the email. Um, talking about raising the, uh, a deadline of credit and stuff like that. So through a holding company, we’ll use it for our subsidiary. So that’s one reason why I was like, okay, well, if there’s any lenders or, um, investors that wouldn’t mind, you know, kind of being a little bit more flexible, this is how, you know, even if they want to do it as debt, then it’s kind of like, Oh yeah, the bank is the asset and everything.

Um, and then of course we can assign. And of course, we can assign, um, you know, if we’re making loans and stuff like that, we can assign assets to, you know, back, back the, um, back the line, the line of credit. And then because it’s subsidiary, we’re just, we’re taking that money out from the holding company.

So let’s say we’re taking 5 million to buy it and we’re taking 5 million as equity infusion. So that’s at least 5 million on the line of credit that’s unused. And then, you know, you, you purchase the bank for five or whatever mil, whatever it comes out to, and everything, and close. And then you have the 5 million that, that, that you put inside that, that you’re gonna use as your, as your runway and everything.

Okay. Okay. No, I understand. So then I guess the, the, the million dollar question is just like, how much would the lender lend to that target company? That’s, that’s just a million dollar question. And then when we get that, then, then we can see, okay, what down payment or what equity needs to be raised.

Because, I mean, really, that’s just answering you’re just answering really use of funds, like, anything after we’ll use the subsidy. We’ll use the capital to do. X, Y, and Z, that’s all just use of funds, which is a smart use of funds, but it’s still just use of funds. And then really, it’s just a matter of, like, how much debt can we get to that target?

And it’d be nice. Obviously, if we can, if it can be 100% debt, that’d be great. Um, it’d be faster, but, you know, we’ll still, we’ll still practice for equity because we never know. Uh, we’ll just assume it’s hard and it will be equity and it will be a lot of work. So, because then we’re not disappointed or surprised.

So I think that that’s the same, uh, you know, stoic, uh, way we’re going to proceed, right? Yes. Yes It is it is, you know, and you know and talking with sean and you know Like I said, I mean, you know with the sheesh, I think uh, you know, um, like I said, I called him again I shot him a text. I have shot him an email.

Uh, you know again it may I I don’t know Uh, because what you’re saying that it’s 25 million dollars or more and everything Um, I can kind of see Where, where the lagging communication is. I just wish she would tell me that, you know,

uh, not enough is outta our warehouse, but, um, oh, no, I, I’ll follow with him again. Send him email. Oh, he said just kinda, what did he say? I didn’t hear that. No, no, no, no. I’m saying I only talked to him one time before when he told me to send him, uh, kind of a detailed, uh, some details on, on the deals that, you know, he was raising for.

I haven’t heard back from him. So that’s why I was telling you over the last two weeks. And everything. So I was saying, would you saying that it’s 25 million or more, you know, I would say I’ll just follow up with him, kind of send him a detailed, you know, message like, Hey, you know, we’re, we’re, you know, open to 25 million, everything, this is how we’re looking to structure it and Baba.

So kind of, you know, kind of cinema, you know, kind of send an email around that, you know, and, and, and talking about that. But I mean, working with Sean, I mean, I have a call with Sean tomorrow. Right. Everything. So, um, you know, we’ll see, you know, you know, we’ll see. I know he say he has some family offices that might be interested in this.

I know he wants me to do the search fund. Um, so we’ll see, you know, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll see how that goes and everything. And, um, you know, regarding our conversation. So I, but, but I’ll send you an update, uh, about how that call goes, uh, tomorrow or Friday. Okay. Good. Yeah, don’t don’t be too worried about the, uh, about the, the search, the search fund.

Honestly, don’t worry about it. Like, it’s something we can structure. Like, I mean, at this point, we’ve done so many, but she is more the opposite. He likes the big deals, but they don’t like funds. Uh, so for him, just press the single deal at a time method and over emphasize the management team. And then there’s obviously 25Million and above and then.

I mean, that’s what he wants. So just let him know. He may be on, he may have been on vacation because of this whole, uh, July break or whatever. But, um, yeah. Try to let him know about the, uh, Uh, like he, he comes back to everybody from my last, from when I last remember. As long as the deals are above 25 million.

Yeah, no, no, I will. Yeah, and if not, Yeah, and if not, you know, we can just get you with Rob. Rob is the founder. And then he replies, like, so, I mean, worst case, you can talk to Rob as well. Okay. Okay. Well, yeah, yeah. I’ll, I’ll, you know, I’ll give it another, I guess we’d say we’ll, we’ll check back in next Wednesday.

And then if you need to introduce me to Rob and that, that’d be fine and everything. But yeah, I mean, I, I think for this deal, I think, you know, every deal, I mean, like I said, we’ve been looking at getting a banking license or pursuing a bank for a few years now, like, like in the sense of, Wanting to do it or, you know, but it gets acquired by another company or stuff like that.

So I think every single, all four of them, I think we’re going to go at it at the same way we’re going to try to pursue it fully, you know, and everything. Um, because they’re small enough to where you could just remove some things, do some carve out stuff like that, you know, everything. So it’s basically, you could purchase a license and kind of start over, you know, and everything.

So, I mean, I know once, um, I’m sorry, hold on. Uh, yeah, so I, I know, um, I was talking to, to some of my colleagues, uh, uh, and I’m trying to get a, uh, Uh, warrants and, uh, reps and warrants insurance to replace the, uh, to replace the escrow because I mean, you know, they, they have to, you know, they have to keep that money escrow for, you know, a set amount of time anyway.

So I know what a couple of, uh, M and a deals I worked on before that was bigger. That that’s what they did. You know, that’s what the acquiring companies did. They just got, uh, reps and, uh, uh, uh, RWI. Yeah. And that replaced the escrow and stuff like that. And they’ll just give all the capital at the, at the end of, um, at, at, at close because they, cause they already have, they have everything covered.

So I think, like I said, I think for each and every one, I think we’re going to just pursue it straight out. Like, Oh, we’re going to go all the way in and stuff like that. So, you know, and everything. So, but yeah, I don’t want to take a, I don’t want to take up too much, too much more time, but, um, you know, that’s my update there.

So I’ll email you regarding Sean, the. What’s going on with Sean? Cause, um, uh, or, or I can just talk to you on Monday and stuff like that. It’d probably be better what I, what I do. And then, um, yeah. And then I’ll let you know if I hear anything back from Rasheesh. Yep. And please see either one. That’d be great.

You know, another thing, uh, I guess the last thing is that there’s also bond capital. I don’t think we introduced yet, but then bond capital is another one. You know, we’re just getting, uh, yeah, you know, we had a few. We had 1 contact that we’re good friends with, and then he switched jobs. And so we were making friends of a new contact.

So, uh, capital is another good company that they do acquisition. They do tons of acquisitions as well. So, uh, or they, they finance acquisitions. And so, um, you just bear with us and then we’ll get you introduced to them as well. Because, I mean, they do the same thing. Okay, all right, cool, perfect, perfect. And do they have a minimum as well?

One million. Oh, okay. They’re agnostic to businesses. They do one million. They help in M& A. Uh, they’re pretty, the only thing is that they’re in the west coast. They’re in Vancouver. So they’re very, uh, they’re like, okay, you know, they like, I mean, Puerto Rico is like the opposite corner of North America.

That’s the only thing. But, uh, but besides that it’s in their mandate.

Right, right, right. Yeah. I was, I was saying the ones you introduced to me recently, the debt side you introduced to me. Yeah. So, so two of them are only focused on real estate at the moment and the other two, I haven’t heard anything back yet, but I followed up with them. I mean, as you can see in the email, you’ll see that I responded to them.

Okay. Okay. So we’ll get, we’ll get you debt contacts that are more just business acquisition as opposed to needing to have real estate attached. So that’s the next one. Right, right. Okay. Okay, cool. And then also last thing, uh, sometimes I think what I’ve realized is that I think a lot of them, at least a lot of the lenders I spoke to or, or now, sorry, a lot of the issues that I ran into is that Some of them aren’t really interested in outside.

So they want to do stuff on the mainland and everything. So it’s so like, so that obviously that’ll probably be the only thing. So, so that’s why I kind of spread, you know, kind of spread wide. And I ended up finding the one in Wyoming and stuff like that as well. And then talks with them for just in case, you know, um, can’t find any, any, uh, lenders or investors that want to invest in Puerto Rico.

Although you get a great tax tax break. You know, you know, but you know, whatever. Maybe people don’t know. Yeah. What’s funny. We have a new In their community, there’s somebody called Monica profit. I don’t know if you’re familiar, but she lives in Puerto Rico and she lends. That being said, she lends most of the deals she lends to her just real estate.

So I’ll try to see if she can lend also to, you know, just businesses in general. But she’s domestic. Uh, that may be a bit maybe she’s she’s writing all the whatsapps in the community But i’ll i’ll just reach out to her personally and see like if she’s still doing um, if she does only real estate or beyond that Okay.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, you can tell her, you know that um, you know, it’s a puerto rican bank That’s looking or a few of them that would that you know that we’re looking at And, um, also we’ll, we’ll, we’ll be flying down there and not in the next few weeks or so, you know, could possibly meet her and stuff like that.

So, you know, we’ll, we’ll see. All right. Thank you so much. All right. No worries. No worries. Talk soon. And I will make that intro. All right. Thank you so much. Talk to you later. Cheers. Sonoris. All right. Chamarra, how’s it going? I see that you’re back. Is, uh, yeah, I just, uh, trying to capture one of the mails I was trying to, um, so, um, a couple of things.

9 to 1 is, uh, regarding to the, uh, investor list, uh, my VA trying to copied and trying to paste it. Uh, you can only copy 200 of them. Oh, yes. I’m not saying it’s a restriction. I’m just saying it’s just, um, then the second point is, uh, is there any way that we can download from here or option there? I don’t know.

Maybe I didn’t see and I could not find it. And I said, just download as much as you can. Or then he said, no, we didn’t copy this part. So, I’ll tell you what we will just. Make this accessible. So I, I’ll go to the developer today and by afternoon, yeah, by afternoon, we’ll make it so that you can download it.

Uh, that’s not a problem. Okay. Uh, hundred 70,000. Yeah, no, we can do that. So, uh, so, so, uh, my VA is getting ready. My question to you is how do I, uh, uh, the, I don’t wanna say, so the, uh, should I have a LOI and everything in place before we start these conversations with the, uh, companies? I do it as soon as well.

I do it even before the LOI. I would really be, I’m not really worried about moving ahead of the deal. I already know that you’re going to find good deals and I’m not worried about that. Uh, I think now it’s just more of an exploratory. This is the more exploratory phase to say, okay, let’s talk to these investors.

Let’s see what their feedback is before we move forward. So this is more exploratory. Um, so I, I think let’s just talk to the investors right away. Um, you know, and then when they respond, then we can start saying, then we started to get their interest. It takes raising capital. I always see people always say that it always ends up taking longer than people expect.

So I’ll just, uh, start now, not worry too much about the yellow. I got the people are interested. And then when, when it’s starting, when people are starting, we have like, around 5 people that have already said, oh, I’m interested. Or, yeah, we can offer this. Uh, and I’m interested, you know, then I will start getting the deals under L.

O. Y. Um, you know, just so you have enough time. So you can quote that’s what I would do. Worst case. Um, 2nd question I have is, do you have a scripts for the V. A. or do I need to provide the scripts for the V. A. Oh, we have scripts and then we, we update a few of them. So, right at, uh, we, we just updated a few days ago.

Let’s see. So communicating with investors for the emails, we have scripts and then also for the, for the phone calls or the cold calls. Exactly, exactly. So then, yeah, so then emails are all here and then the. Scripts things just loading outbound just means that we’re going to we’re calling them cold. Um, so then they called when they called the list and they’re following the scripts.

And then all that’s happening is that they’re just filling it. So everything in. In a square brackets, you know, we’re just replacing the things in the square brackets with our sector. So, like, for example, instead of, like, insert deal sector here, we just say, you know, senior home care facilities or senior home care services or hospice, whatever the name of the deal is.

And then we just inserted there and then they run of it. Uh, we could do it for you, or you can do it yourself and then you can give us, we can do feedback, but we’re already and we dealt with a lot of Filipinos, a lot of Mexicans, a lot of Colombians. And, you know, these are usually the things that we tell them because a lot of them, they say, sir, we tell him not to say, sir, tell him to talk slowly, you know, just all this annoying stuff to just get them to, you know, to get a certain level.

So, yeah, no, this is taken care of. So for the outbound calls, they do this. If they book on your website, uh, then they do, um, the inbound call script one. And this thing is just a slightly different, uh, this one, this one, you’re not, they’re not, they’re not doing this one. This is more just like. Uh, if you’re if somebody like you was calling them or or if you’re calling somebody that is super sophisticated, it’s just more organic.

And this is an example call of me, but no, they’re just doing script. 1 is what they’re doing. All right. So, uh, definitely. I will. So, does he what else I need to do? I think he’s already uploading the documents like contacts right now. Uh, once he done, uh, what are the next steps? He should know that part of the instructions, right?

Right. Yeah, he should, um, let’s see where we’re at. Basically, they have to send data to just send the emails and then start start getting conversations going. But let me see what the, uh,

log on list building. So, yeah, they’re on the list building phase. And then we’re already accounted if it’s going to level do this. Yeah, so they’re just sending they’re sending 200 emails every day. Um, so what’s funny, what’s funny is that because there’s a 200 email limit, uh, maybe it’s not a horrible thing for now because now at least they can start doing that just so they can slow down and see what the feedback is and then, uh, you know, so then, so then for this, you know, you’re doing more M& A so is, is include firm name here, uh, just like include the field is, um, bond capital, direct funder for, Uh, Even a positive, and then I’ll change this from real estate to your sex or deals.

Hello, name. I’m assisting even a positive companies, blah, and we’re just talking about, so all we’re doing. We’re just talking about deals that have positive EBITDA because like, we, we notice, um. This CEO, the CEO investors. Let me try to find Presidio, so we notice that any, like, a lot of these firms, they just start saying, hey, we want busy, but we want that enterprise value.

So that’s why we’re throwing back what they said at us. And we’re just saying, hey, we have even a positive companies, you know, so can you help us with this? And that’s

okay. All right. Uh, and the dead side, do, you know, someone who’s on the really good at that side or reasonable on the side? Yeah, so we know a few, like, there are, there are a lot of, there are a few new people that we, we sent over to even sir, Derek, who was just on the call, but you’re like, I mean, you even have more options because.

Your real estate, you have real estate attached to all the deals, correct? Or no, uh, yes, even the 1 on the I’m looking at the health care agency 1, they have real estate separately. And if I want to buy it, they can buy 1. 3, 1. 3 to 5. Okay, the only thing you have to watch out for the rates are high, but there are tons and we can do an introduction, but there’s, um, there’s Kennedy funding.

The rates are pretty high, but they get time to get deals done all the time. Candy funding is great. Um, what would be the rates that. Up of your head doesn’t have to be specific. Yeah, she’s not cheap. Like, now, maybe we’re talking teens could be low teens. Uh, for senior, yeah, so, so they’re, they’re pretty expensive, but to get the deals done, uh, you know, so, so then there’s them there.

You know, there’s also the others, I think, from earlier on, you know, including Camille. Um, the pool, um, there’s a few others. There are tons of them, but we can, we can just so I think we can go back through the existing introductions and then, um, you may, you may have to just go to the investor intro button again and do that again.

But, but, yeah, no, there are tons of them that we have. Uh, just that the rates are going to be expensive. That’s the only problem. Okay. All right. Um, I think Tanya has me question about the, uh, V. A. I don’t have specific experience, but say, we, I’ve been through the, what’s, uh. Native and the group are suggested to me, but only difference is like, I interviewed multiple people.

So that you can filter out, right? Well, what was it comfortable?

Thank you. Yeah, thanks. Yeah. Yeah, no, it’s true. Yeah, my only, um, my only, my only annoyance with VAs is just the accents. Uh, if you manage the good accents, then you’re really, you’re really lucky. And we got a few of a good accents, but it just takes time to get one of good accents. So that’s probably the biggest problem.

But other than that, uh, yeah, I would give like a probationary period too, of just like two weeks so that you can literally, and it’s, it’s, it’s capitalist, but you don’t even have to pay it. You can, you can even have an agreement and say, Hey. This is an internship period. You don’t even have to pay them if you don’t like them for the 1st, 2 weeks or when we can even do that.

And then they can agree. They’ll agree to it. So, uh, I like to pay them sometimes, depending on how the performances for the 1st, 1 week or 2 weeks and see how committed and serious they are. And then you can test them. And then once you can hire 2 at the same time, and then the 2nd, 1, you and what’s her name?

I’ll be fine of that. Like, uh, she shouldn’t try twice or anything. And then you can take you can hire 2 at the same time. Uh, and then you can have, they will both compete against each other to see which 1 is the best. And then after the 1st, 2 weeks, then, uh, you can choose the best 1. So there are all kinds of games.

You can play to see if they’re serious. And then after the 1st, 2 weeks, then you can keep them. Um, so that’s all and the last thing is, like, you can also, uh, tell them, like, don’t tell them to fill in any, like, don’t just hire them directly. Like, tell them to just send a video. Uh, of, like, explaining why they’re the best fit for the role and then based on the effort they put in the video, then you can see how good they are because everyone’s using these days.

And then, uh, it is hard to know who’s actually honest. So the video is really good because you can see their accents. You can see their face. You know, you can see how hard they work and everything. Yeah, that’s right. Thanks. Yeah, no worries.

Thanks guys need to drop. Yep. Thank you. Appreciate it. No worries. Cheers. All right. And speaking of Tanya, Tanya, how’s it going there? I’m good. How are you doing? Doing well. Yeah, it’s good. Um, yeah, I right now I’m just trying to get, you know, certain ducks in the row and, um, I’ll follow up with you more on what I’m trying to do, but, uh, I think I emailed you about that meeting you have coming up.

Is it this weekend? Yeah, so, yeah, I’ll be in Toronto. I think it’s a distillery district. I have to check the address, but yeah, it’s basically a bunch of, um. There’s some capital raisers, but really I’m running a few capital raisers. We’re just having a little 25 person events. Uh, of different business owners, and they were just going to do it’s a mastermind and they were just sharing ideas on, you know, how we basically make money online, raise money.

Um, you know, and then, you know, I know that he asked for the, like, a physical book with that signed, but. Uh, you know, actually, I ran out of my author copies. So, you know, but I, I do have some, um. You know, some, I guess, some free chapters that I, we have some copies of free chapter. So if you meet up there. Uh, then we can get some free chapters if you want, and that’ll be at.

Uh, 11 a. m. on Saturday. 11 a. m. on Saturday. Did you send the info about it? I didn’t see that. Yeah, so it’s on, I don’t know if it’s on the calendar link, the calendar, uh, you know, that was the other organizer, but I’ll send you all the information as well. Okay, please. Yeah, I’d be interested to come. Yeah, and worst case, we’ll record it and then we’ll share it to the communities anyway.

But, uh, but yeah, no, please come and then. Uh, you can learn a lot. There are a lot of people. There are some people in their 20s making like hundreds of thousands of dollars a month. There’s a really high performers there. So it’s really, it’s really good. Yeah, it’s great. Yeah, yeah. All right. I’m done. I’m definitely interested to come.

I was going to go to Jamaica, but I’m going to cancel. Wow. You’re going to cancel it. I didn’t, I didn’t book it yet. So I was going to meet, you know, yeah. You know, Michael, that’s in the group. I wanted to meet with him. Oh, Michael Gordon. Yeah. Yeah. He’s a good guy. No, I met him once. Uh, he’s a good guy. I met him at the Jamaican stock exchange events like in 2019.

So I met him like four years ago. Uh, but you know, he’s a really, yeah, I told you, I’m also Jamaican, I have my Jamaican citizenship and password. I just, I wanted to do deals there as well, but, um, I wanted to kind of do it after the, after my fund is set up too. Right. So, you know, he just said, whenever I’m able to come to Kingston, we can have a meeting and, uh, discuss some things.

I know about his 100 million development that he’s doing and looking for an investor. But, uh, I said, I. You know, I want to know more about what they’re doing out there because I do have, I have two friends that are developers in Jamaica. Just, I haven’t, um, been out there since last year. Um, you know, so I, I do want to go back, but, uh, yeah, the last time I told you it was, it was when my boyfriend passed away, I didn’t, I haven’t been back to Jamaica since then, but, uh, I definitely want to, uh, go out there.

Eventually, um, I can go anytime. So it’s not a big deal. Okay. Fair enough. And then, uh, I mean, it’s tough, though, but but, you know, Gordon is a good guy. There are several others. I should probably get in touch with, too. But, um, yeah, let’s just start with Michael Gordon. But, but, you know, the events would be good because.

Uh, I mean, you’ll get some, some free copies, I think of not the whole book, but just of, uh, some free chapters. And then you can also meet up some, um, you know, there’s a young entrepreneurs in their 30s and 20s. Like, uh, some of them are making millions. So it’s a really tight knit. Uh, we’re not promoted because it’s a really tight knit mastermind, but you’re welcome to join.

Yeah, definitely. I’m interested. I think I’ll get better out of it than going to Jamaica anyway, so it’s okay. Well, I mean, I humbly say I think you will get more out of it. Uh, and I think you know, I mean, it’s a really good, um, I haven’t seen that much, that many people making that much money in a small area, uh, in a while.

So I think it’s good. Okay, excellent. Thanks, not to no worries. So, any, anything else before we, uh, we close off?

No, not at this time. I just, um, I guess I was, uh, uh, what was it again about the, um, trying to remember, you know, with, uh, the, um, go high level. Is there a limit of the amount of contact? I can’t remember if you said there was or not. No, not really that I remember. Like there’s more a limit on the, the bigger limit is the amounts of messages you can send per day, which is still like, you’re not going to hit it.

I don’t think because the biggest limit is I think 15, 000. And then you have to make it like 15, 000. That’s a lot of context. And then after that, uh, there are 3000 texts that you can send a day max, which is more than what you’re going to hit in the net in the 1st, a few months for sure. Uh, and after that, you can bump it up to 45, 000 and it’s actually, I think, 000.

So I’m not really worried about that in the context, like. There doesn’t seem to be a limits below 100, 000 for free. So that’s why I was really emphasizing. It’s really cheap software. So, uh, uh, yeah, I don’t really see any problems there. Yeah, it was just a little debating over them and another company, but uh, they did give me a trial.

I just, I haven’t utilized everything yet. Sorry. I’m going to try to get, uh, uh, stuff set up to see and try it and see if I like it. Yeah, no, exactly. And you don’t have to be married to go iLevel either. It’s just, it’s just the one we understand the most. So, yeah, exactly. Okay. No problem. Thanks. Okay, good.

So, um, so everyone, thanks for, uh, hopping on. So feel free to, if there are any last things before we hop on, please let me know now. But, um, but to everyone, you have next steps. We’ll just for anyone that I said that there’ll be next steps. We’ll just get over. Everyone through email, and we’ll be back on here Monday at.

6 PM, Eastern people can book the help calls 1 and 1 and, uh, let’s just keep up the good work and keep on working hard. So that we’re able to, um, you know, raise the capital that we need. All right, everyone to talk soon. Cheers. Thanks to by.

 

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