Investor Strategy Call – May 23rd, 2023

 

All right. Yeah, so I just got the property on the contract last Thursday. In a nutshell, let me, we can dive in. I’m actually working on three deals. So each, I think probably total would be about 60 million. So raise would be maybe about 15 to 20 million. Altogether. But this London one is one that I’m focusing heavy on right now, and

yeah. So let me, is it,

it’s interesting.

Yeah. So like right now I’m in the process of building my team. And it’s been it’s been an interesting journey doing that. So this is just a, this is just a quick analysis of the deal. This is not my pitch deck at all, but just to give you a low down purchase price is 21 million.

Like I charge 10% management fees, so 10% is like my asset management fees in there. Maybe superintendent might be in there. I do my own, I own my own property management company, so Nice. It’s easy for me to consolidate a administration in house and then just make sure I have someone on site that can, and then maybe outsource all the subtrades and all that stuff.

Nice. And you own it a hundred percent, right? Yes. I own my oper, I own my property management a hundred percent. So That’s good. Yeah. I can really put a D in the Put a D in the, I know it doesn’t affect, this deal itself, but that could really make a big difference. Yeah, so the biggest thing with this deal is the first mortgages.

So first mortgage on the on one building is 40 year amortization at 2.72. And then the other property is 1.7% at 40 year. So this one here, 2.7 is till 2027. And then the second one is till 2030. So I’m trying to do some modeling on how it would look in four years if we have to refi the one building, if there’s any cash back, is there any waterfall?

And the one in year 30. But generally, I believe this deal is like a 10 year buy and hold with some waterfalls. That gets some capital back, but I’m still gonna, I’m still trying to calculate how that would look. The big, what makes this deal a decent deal. And you see my cash on cash is this, my debt coverage is, it’s amazing cuz of those mortgages are so cheap.

Yeah. So with this deal, the

the mortgages, so when the builder built these, so these were, each building is about, one building is three years old. The other one is like a year and a half old. So they’re new builds.

So this is just to give you a scroll. This is the first one here. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. So first one and then second one over here.

I think these are like institutional grade, decent quality. This one’s a little lesser quality, no, balconies are so forth. The bigger one has balconies and it’s a little nicer. You were telling me about 6 million, but then this is this is a bit bigger, right? So the purchase price is 21 million.

The total raise would be 6 million, so Oh, yeah. Yeah. Payment. And that’s Canadian dollars. That’s Canadian dollars. Yeah. Yeah. That’s three. It’s like 3 million. Yeah. You, us, yeah, us. That’s what, 4 million million bucks? Yeah. I think it’s one point. To me it’s big. Cause like my biggest raise, I’m used to, I raise like million bucks, here, like this is like my biggest raise, till date to date, right?

Yeah. No’s true. Yeah. So based on, yeah, so just basically this is the buying costs, initial improvement, 6 million. So yeah, so around 6 million there. And then my, I guess the i r and I don’t know, I r to me is what would you pitch? Would you say it’s a 19% based on 10 year hold?

Or do you average it out? I don’t to me, I r is I think a lot of sponsors would, let’s say they’re trying to dispossess a property in two years. They pitch this or they’ll pitch something higher. Like they’re only holding it. Yeah, no, good point. But it’s almost as if the templated, like the de facto, it seems to always be five years, five years.

Five years. Five years. So I would do it based on five years. Cause that’s nine 90%. I see all these syndications five years. And then, so yeah. So I think, I don’t know, 23%. I guess that’s a healthy I r Yep. Decent. I r Yeah. Yep. And then obviously are you being conservative?

Are you being conservative or are you being, more optimistic in these calculations? These are conservative because this is based off of the, about the appraisal coming at 23. Yeah. So we’ll go into my next point. I think the appraisal will come in higher, but yeah, like with to me, how I always pitch deals, it’s simple.

You we don’t do preferred returns. We say all the investors get all their cash, get all the cash flow on the ca on the return of capital model, not re return of investment, not on investment model. Return of investment to get all their ca all the cashflow goes back to them as capital payback.

And once they get their capital back, then we split amongst the partners where the return becomes an infinite return model because they still retain their equity in the project. And then going forward okay okay. Okay. I’m thinking what you’re saying and I’m shelfing it. And then, so then the reason why you’re not doing preference is you’re saying that is why Exactly.

I don’t really understand. I just, all my deals, I’ve never really pitched a preferred return. Okay. I just say so this is the cash on cash here? Yeah. For the whole thing. 8%? Yes. So I would say you get I just say I, in layman’s terms to investors it’s a, so for this project would be a 50 50 split.

Each share 50 shares, each share is 120,000. That will get you to 6 million. The cash or the return on that investment is 8% a year. Cash flow, all the cash, basically I say all the cash flow goes to your invest goes to you as capital payback. Once you get your capital payback, we are, we’re estimating by either it be like year five or year four.

We’ll say we might have a, this deal might be a waterfall in year four, and then maybe year, I would say 2030, which is what, seven years from now, you would get another waterfall, which would get your initial investment back. And then they per, and then the model becomes infinite. As long as we hold on we hold the investment.

And then obviously if you, if we dispossessed, they get, it’s a 50 50 split on any cash. On any cash, like extra cash. That’s after they get their initial investment back. Yeah. No, exactly. So if I, if we were to speak freely, like it sounds like almost those jobs that they say they have in Limitless paid time off.

Like it, it sounds like that, but then like you phrased it in a really nice way and it’s good the way you phrased it, but it sounds like basically the paid time off thing. When people actually go into it, they realize, oh really people feel guilty for taking time off. So it’s like infinite work because I’m, because basically I’m gonna ask would you still get you, the split is 50 50 you said, right?

And what is the split throughout the whole deal? Yeah. So the split would be 50 50 50 50 gp 50 to the lp. Yeah. But then that’s like a lot. That’s a lot though. Because you’re just, you’re saying like, okay, you’re gonna get this return. So you’re saying, okay don’t worry about the fact that I’m taking half of it.

Just focus on the fact that you’re gonna get your return in the time I say you’ll get it, whereas you’re still take it. But in the pre return protects the, they’re not even, you’re not even getting anything as, until there’s a certain result. So I still think it’s it’s a good deal.

I just think it’s still I mean it’s a bit, it’s a bit bold, I think. Okay. Do you think I should, so like with the model, I should go like six, like all my deals I’ve done has been like 50. Cause like with the gps, like how I pitch it is you’re coming in as an LP at me as a gp, my, I’m pers guaranteeing all my properties.

We own about a over a hundred units under management across 15 properties. We’re qualifying for the mortgage, we’re putting our, we’re putting our guarantee or personal guarantee and our guarantee. And that’s why we’re at that 50 mark. And the fact that we don’t take any cash flow, you get all the returns until you get your initial capital back.

So I don’t make money until you make money. So once we have, once we hit those milestones and waterfalls, once you get your initial investment back, then we would split any of the Oh, okay. I misunderstood. No, I think I misunderstood. No, I think that’s fine. Yeah. I misunderstood initially. Yeah. So that’s how I pitch my deals.

I think it makes sense in trying to stay i r and preferred return this, like to, like some investors. It’s just, it just let’s, I think it’s just like a smoother pitch. Yeah. Yeah. Because what’s funny, when we’re doing adays deal, what’s funny is that’s many people didn’t even know what preference all of things were anyway.

So even the people that came, some of them, they even know what that is. I don’t even know how maybe their parents maybe they got an inheritance or something. Some of them they actually don’t know. I think it’s best if you just like lead with the simplicity as you said. And then because, and another thing, some people would say that, oh, if I are above this, then split is this.

But then you’re saying split will be this after you get your your return, your initial investment back. Yeah, initial investment. Thank you for filling that in. I think it’s a, I like it. I think it’s good. I just think that Maybe just for anyone who knows about what preference is I guess maybe we can just rehearse that a few times.

But no, I think it’s a good it’s a good mo I’d like to see if we can write that down in a quick term sheet. Yeah. To say okay, so split, it’s a hundred percent to LPs in this condition. So if this condition is a hundred percent to LPs, otherwise if this condition, like after you get your return on investment capital, then it’s split this and this, it’s pretty much the same thing as a pre return in a way because the just reduces the risk.

And so that’s the way you used to reduce the risk. So let’s keep it the way, let’s keep it the same. You already, you sold people before. It works before in the past. Let’s not change things that are working. So let’s keep that and then and then just proceed and test what they say. Yeah. So what makes this deal con like a little con?

I wouldn’t say confusing, but I think a lot of it people have passed on the deal. At when they put it out is that there’s a forgivable loan of this much here from the city of London that the developer got to build $10 million. So there’s a 16 million is the conventional C M H C that’s consumable.

And then 10 million, so basically 66%, all the one bedrooms are affordable are made for affordable units. You have to affordable for a 30, 30 year period. So basically there’s no interest, there’s no payments on that money. Like we would be assuming this 10 million debt. Yeah. And you don’t pay anything as long as you comply with the affordability, which Which you can raise rents, basically, whatever the C M H C model is whatever the C M H C is rent is rate is for rent.

Like what they did their, when they do their analysis for the area, you have to keep it 80% of that every year. So when C M A C comes out with their models for what the rents are, where the market rent is, you have to be at 80% of that market rent. Yeah. Okay. So you have to be, so in other words, you have to be 20% cheaper than the max.

Yes. That C M H C tells you to that the max is Yes, on 60 per, on all the one bedrooms, the two bedrooms, whatever you want. Obviously in Ontario, anything over any new bills, anything new after 2018, there’s no rent control. So you can raise rents to whatever you’d like. Interesting. And there’s a lot I’ve already seen in the deal.

There’s a lot of rents that are right now below that CMA C threshold on the one bedrooms. I think right now one bedroom, it could be about 900 bucks and there’s still some units at 600. So there’s still room for a $300 on a lot of the units. Two, $300 bump on rent. Yeah. But then there, there are all sorts of anyway, lemme speak to what I know.

So then the, so then just to confirm, so around 10 million, you pay no interest on that 10 million of that 16 million Yes. Is what you’re saying. If no, on, so there’s 16 million and then there’s another 10 million. So the total debt is 26. 26. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. So 10 million of that 26 million has no interest payments on you.

If you keep the rents be below 20%, below the max that they say you can have it. Yes. Okay. And it’s forgiv and then the loan is forgivable. If you keep that, I think in I think it’s like you have, I guess 30 years, it’s forgivable. Yeah. 30 years. Yeah. Is this world still going to exist in that?

Let’s, yeah, I know, right? The way things are going. I know, right? And it’s funny because so what we actually can do is what we’re exploring is C M H C we could probably if the City of London, like in their contract, they will go, like the realtor says, they’ll go into second, they’ll go into third or fourth or whatever.

As long as you just meet, you just have to meet their criteria. So with these first mortgages we’re gonna be going to C M H C, which they’ll do a whole new underwriting process to see if we can. Get additional funds in second place with the M l I select program. So with that M l I select program, probably the rates would be probably at 40 years, 40 year m maybe 4%, 50 year m we’re gonna get, we’re gonna hit points on affordability toward the affordable and all that stuff.

And so we’d probably be able to get another two or $3 million. So it’s generally bring our raise down to about 3 million bucks. Amazing. So you don’t know yet? I’m pitching it to do the full 6 million. Good. But if you get approved, I would reduce it quite a bit. Yeah, no, exactly. There’s somebody called Aaron BeMe or something, he’s based out, out west.

And he has the whole story. Same thing. We just say, same thing, we say pitch, let’s pitch the the big rays, and then if it’s the worst one, then at best case, we already pitched the bigger arrays anyway. Yeah, we’re just being on the side of caution. I just think that like we don’t have, like we, we have matter.

It is just Victoria Day, so that’s why he wasn’t around. And then he makes models and then, based in Vancouver. And we have David, we can get you some, if you want, we can get you some scenarios for Okay. If I guess like one, if basically how high could you, if you break the rules, if you say, Hey, we raised the rents and then it’s this, and then if you keep the rents under yeah.

We can build those scenarios out. Yeah. So I actually was able to hire, I have someone on, I hired from Upwork. Good. He used to work with I wanna say one of those big, got commercial brokerages Cushman. You work for Cushman and Wakefield. Oh. In Beijing, in Shanghai, or, yeah, in Beijing.

And then he got his MBA in the state and he just moved to Markham and he does, all he does is for a lot of big sponsors. He does modeling Nice and pitch deck. I’m gonna get him to do my pitch deck and do a nice pitch deck and everything for my deal for he’s gonna, he’s like working for me now part-time.

Like he, yeah. So he knows how to do G P L P, like waterfall modeling and all that stuff. Yeah. So gonna get him to get that pump that out this week. I guess just for me is we’re just starting the underwriting process where I’m partnering with another GP too. Kind of help by net worth, cuz my net worth is probably like a few million two or 3 million. So I need someone just to qualify for the mortgage that has like a le at least another 7 million plus. Oh. So that’s why I got so the person I got, I have a couple people who are willing, but the one who’s gonna, who has like about 10 million, I’m giving him like 15% just to sign as a guarantor on the deal.

So and he has some track record. He’s been an operator for a while and he has, he owns a few stuff, 15% of the gp. Okay. And you justified this like financially, right? And everything? I’m assuming, yeah. I j yeah, I’ve justified it fi like I, it’s not set in stone. And then I also have an exec market dealer.

Yeah. Who he does, he’s a financial advisor. He’s invested on a few deals himself with me. I see. Maybe about maybe 150,000. He’s invested with me. He’s outta Nova Scotia, so he has a lot of, he has a big network cuz he does a lot of infinite banking models. Yeah. So all of his clients are infinite banking clients.

Yeah. So they all have like probably a hundred, 200,000 sitting in their, in those accounts. Yeah. Those infinite, I dunno if you’re ever familiar with infinite banking, but in their insurance accounts. So he, I might bring him on, give him some equity to help me do the raise. I guess the biggest thing with me is just it’s just do you think this deal is viable enough with the horizon?

Like it’s a, because I’m used to doing birds, right? Like short term. Okay. Back in a year and a half, maybe two years. But this is like a more long term buy and hold and so it’s makes me a little nervous. The thing with the buy and holds, so I guess a two things I could talk to the buy and holds after one is that, I guess the unique angle and the unique thing is that many people in this whole capital raising world, like a lot of them they, if it could be frank again, they suck at, the online game.

They can’t book appointments on demand. Okay. So the idea, yeah, the idea is that we need to get you booking appointments on demand. Like you, every week when you see it, it’s something, every week you’re gonna have X amount of appointments with potential investors, that like a certain percentage of them are going to be serious and we need to just get the appointments.

That’s the, that’s my side. So then we just need to get that going. So then that’s one, number two. Just from on the Canadian side, people are just it’s more like your deal for a buy and hold looks a bit optimistic compared to some other deals that we saw close. But then which is good, is just that sometimes the eight limited partners that I had to interview when I was working with with On Car Kar he was, they were so capital preservation focused, and so inflation scared, like they weren’t so big on the appreciation, or sorry, they weren’t big on the appreciation and making a lot, they were more like scared of losing.

So maybe it’s more suited for the conservative type of investor. Yeah. That’s something if it’s buying, yeah, because you’re, you’re doing the big deals where you’re getting a big you’re getting a big uptick in two years, which is really short.

Whereas this one is more stable and, it’s like more cool down and more almost boring if I can say that. So I think that, that may be, that’s my hypothesis. We contest it and see what the world says. But yeah, I just think that it’s more we just need to get, we just need to get appointments with people that are more, similar to those folks, the infinite Viking folks that they have the money lying around, one of their, maybe their uncle died and then had a farm and then send them a bunch of money and then send some people like that died investing before, and then just look into hedge against inflation.

But that may be the hypothesis to test on this. And then we just, Source like that. And another thing I’m thinking is do I, what’s the minimum investment? Should I do two, 2%, I guess two shares at the minimum is 240,000 for two. I guess it’s essentially 2% on the gp, on the LP side. Or should I do it like a minimum investment of one share 120?

Because it’s basically be 50 people and mostly my deals I’ve done two or three, maybe five people max on an investment. Could I find maybe five people who wanna do, or 10 people who 500,000 or, five or six at a Million Ink, or those are just probably, so I find the less is better just on a management standpoint.

And then I don’t know if you’re familiar with Syndication Pro or Exempt Edge, of course. Do you think it’ll be good to set up one of those portals to manage investors? To send them the term sheets and manage them through that type of portal or, oh, good question. I’m not really I think you can AppFolio was also good.

I think you can get away with you probably just get away with DocuSign just to onboard them. I’ve seen there was this Israeli guy. He brought in Jewish fellow, brought in a law of investors. We just used DocuSign. At the end of the day, the people are already sold on when they’re signing the subscription agreement, and you probably configure this.

They’re already sold. They’re just being onboarded. So I think there’s the onboarding and then there’s the management. Because when Lowell came in from Digi Max, like he was my mentor when I was bringing in his investors. The investors when they were assigning subscription agreements and then doing all that stuff, they were a hundred percent sold on all these random deals too like mushrooms and all this rubbish.

So there were, they were like sold. So I’m not ultra worried, honestly about how you onboard the investors. I just think that it has to be something where they have the option not to just do pen and paper, like you do a DocuSign on a subscription agreements. Or you can use like a I if you if a solution is costing like significant amount of money I would just focus that money on acquiring calls of investors rather than.

On the onboarding documents for those investors. That is my sense, because you can get appointments for pretty cheap with somebody who can qualify. So that’s one. Two is that for the management, the ongoing management and reporting? Some people they just use they’re different ways of doing it.

Some people they may use like a, just a simple email newsletter. The go high level thing is possible, but they may use an email newsletter to do that. And they may just have the quarterly reports that way. Another one, another one for your first simple syndication pro is really good at that.

But then it’s really just an email newsletter that is just sending it out, frankly. And it does a lot of the same things that AppFolio does, which is also cheaper in a sense of having all the properties listed on the portal. And then it’s telling you what all, where all the money’s going.

And there’s also hash Flow Pro there’s another thing called Cash Flow Pro, which does the exact same thing. So the point I making is I don’t care. Get the way that they sign a subscription agreement. That one is easy, but then the management is pretty, I think the management you should probably invest a bit more in instead of it, instead of investing a lot in the, taking in the investors if that makes sense.

Get ’em, sign a subscription agreement, you can send them a freaking piece of paper and then they would, they’ll will be sold. Do you think it’s worth it? Cause I have an exec market dealer who wants to do the deal, like referring pop to that to him once they’re wanting to sign up and to do the onboarding process?

Or do you think that I could just with a credited investors, just do it just send them the agreements to get their lawyers to review you in that sense. So I didn’t actually catch the question. Can you repeat that? So I’m planning to partner with, and he’s a financial advisor, so he has that market dealer license and stuff.

Nice. Do you think it’ll be like, I know some investors when they’re doing their deals with accredited, they would probably they would get them to move and talk with the financial advisor to more explain the term. Oh yeah. Do you think that’s a great way with this project or you think I could just do it myself and just send them like a term sheet and let their lawyer review when you’re doing neon the onboarding process?

Yeah. I just treated like B2B sales. It’s a bit straight, it’s a bit simple and straightforward, but we just treat the, we, whenever we ask answer questions about what people should do when they go on a serious cause of the investors, we treat exactly the same as B2B sales. Like we just have the person objection handle.

We recommend having everything on one centralized call where everyone is on the same call and then people are just objection handling. And then that’s it. So any question, like the information they have, the information, it could be AppFolio or whatever. They have all the information they can read, but then you’re just answering you, you’re just objection handling the questions that they have.

So that’s it. And then you’re just objection handling the questions that they have. But then before that, basically you’re having, so I guess, let me, lemme just go back. So the philosophy that we use is the Jeremy, I don’t know if Jeremy Minor? No. Okay. So Jeremy Minor he’s more of a B2B sales guy.

He has something called n e pq, which is his sales process. Neuro I think neuro persuasion something, it’s just, it’s it’s just one of these hyped up acronyms. So the way that he, his philosophy is basically, same thing as spin cell. And it’s basically like the problem.

So there’s the problem, there’s the needs pa there’s the problem, there’s the. From problem. Then there’s the there’s the implication questions that, say, okay, where, how does it affect the, how does the problems affect your life? Then it’s the the whole so the problem then implications, benefit, rusty.

Then it’s the, then they get more solution awareness and talk about the solution. So then the third part, it’s more of, oh, explain the opportunity. But then the thing is that when you explain the opportunity, You’re not gonna have to you, it’s not feasible for you to go into all the details of the, of showing like the, all the financial, remember that financial document that you shared?

Yeah. It’s sounds realistic for you to go into all those details, right? So yeah, you go over everything in a way that you know, is proper and high level, but you won’t be able to go through everything. And then, the final thing is that you have them on standby for them to take any questions and answer it.

But then if you go through all that upfront, then it will bore them and then they, their brains will just shut off. So it, I think my two sense is, I think it’s better, like if you just have somebody on a call, you have the financial advisor on the call and you’re on the call, and then you’re only answering the questions that they ask because the moments you start talking about things that are outside of the things that they ask, then you start creating like all kinds of thoughts that they didn’t think about.

They derails the whole thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. So long story short, in one sentence I think you can just have everyone on one call and then you just objection handle at the end, and then he’s just at the end answering the questions that you can’t answer. Nice. Yeah. So the time I have for this deal, I have 60 days dd due diligence starting like basically Tom like tomorrow.

And with an option to extend for 30 days if there’s a delay on C M H C, us assuming the mortgage. So basically, essentially, let’s say 90 days. Do you think do you think that’s enough time and then what, and then closing would be 30 days after due diligence is waived. Do you think that’s a, you think two, three months is a good time to I should expect to get my pitch deck done this week and then start going, I want to start going into raising I was gonna do a video as well, like posting on my, the I dunno if you’ve ever heard of Wealth Genius.

They’ve been advertising a lot. Yep. You’ve heard of Wealth Genius? Yep. With them? Yeah. So Alfonzo and I’ve been with him with two years. Two or three with his program. So Wow. He multifamily investing and stuff. So in his group he has hundred people. And I know once I post in there, I might get maybe a handful of people who might be interested.

So I might raise maybe, hopefully maybe 500,000 or million there. And then nice, my network maybe I’m assuming, maybe I might get maybe a million or 2 million in my network. So I think just the other 3 million is where I’m going to be trying to, just kind of network with who knows who and that group.

But brings me to what I wanted to show you is there was, there’s this program, I don’t think you’re aware of this. Remember we were talking about starting a trust mutual fund Trust. Yeah. I do. And I was about to ask questions on that. I think I got the notes on on WhatsApp, right? Yeah.

Did I send, did I send it to you? This. I think. Yeah, exactly. This is the one. Yeah. So this Comp Axiom advisors, they’re, I think they’re a group of accountants and tax advisors that they created this this model of creating a mutual fund trust. And with a mutual fund trust in Canada, in order to stay compliant with the CRA A, you need 150 investors.

Yep. All the, for the life of the, like the, you have to maintain 150. So they come, they say they create the hundred and 50 investors in a class a lp. And that keeps you compliant. And basically with this trust is that they. Any deal you do, you create a different class of units. So the investors are not, they’re not investing in a pool where, if you one project goes down and invest, it affects the whole performance.

Every, every project you do is a d it opens the different class. So you can literally have class B and then you do your G P L P for each one. It’s kinda, yeah. Yeah. It’s pretty cool. But the benefits of this is that you can raise money, registered, you can take registered funds, and then it’s also a lot easier to take retail investors.

Obviously with retail investors you have a project to do your offering memorandum, which can be, I dunno, I think it’s pretty, I think it can get pretty expensive to create, right? Yeah, it’s like our version of the regulation A Yeah. But it’s the fact that you can take registered funds.

Cause I have people that, they have tons of money in their registered funds, C F S A R S P and stuff. And you can, but the thing is, with this one, it would take them about six weeks to set up and it’s about 130,000 just to set up the trust. And then obviously for each deal you do is five, 7,000, you’re just creating a G P L P and they just create the, they just open the next class of shares for you.

So I was just wanting to get your thoughts. Do you think I should try to push and maybe get a bunch of soft commitments and then try to push maybe pitching, putting people in this trust model than just doing like a term sheet accredited model? Cause I felt like this type of asset, it’s like a class A asset or at least class B plus asset since it’s a newer build that it would probably look good for taking something like this.

But potentially, and this is, and just a reminder, so then let’s go back to the de to the deals that are underlie the asset. You’re talking about 6 million raises. And then how many raises will fill this mutual fund trust up for the next let’s say two years? So you can do as much trust you want.

You can create as much classes as you want for different deals, but it’s like I’m using this deal, the money that I’m putting together in the race or this deal to fund setting up the trust so I could do other deals with the trust as well. And then you can put, you can get investors to funnel in through here and it’s the most tax efficient way of flowing through capital gains.

Oh, yeah. Back to the LPs, right? Especially if the user T F S A and all that stuff and Right. And, but the reason I’m asking that is because, the only thing if I see a weakness here, it’s not really in the model. It’s more like, For this type of thing. I think you need to have okay, I’m certain that I’m getting these deals in like a sub, a substantial amount of capital is being raised because it’s almost in the states they have the REITs, REITs is almost the same thing where you have to have 150.

There was a friend that had Aaron Muck. Aaron from a mka capital he eats in the E M D and then he would say 150 idiots. So I’m not gonna call any investors idiots, but the point of making, I think you need to raise a lot of money for not need, but I think it, that’s structure probably makes sense to raise a lot of money because, I’m thinking I’m like some of the capital though you can use to acquire, to quote unquote acquire investors.

For the private deal, I would consider it what I would, my 2 cents is like maybe some of the money because. You can use it for the cost of acquisition for the marketing, because I know people that, even though they’re in the us I know people that they pay just 5K a month to bring in people for like on Facebook, for Facebook ads.

This is Amir. This is another guy, Andrew Damon. He does around what, 10 k a month, whatever on Facebook ads. He brings in like between a hundred to 150 a credit investors for his for his real estate deal. And then Amir does it for his it’s like a venture capital fund for MedTech and he targets doctors.

So then it’s a really good market cause doctors are really rich down there especially. So the point I’m making is like some of that money, I think if you just use it for the cost of acquisition of the investors for the first deal, then yeah. Then by all means like I think it’s smart. Yeah.

But I think it’s smart because cuz because again, like you’re doing sort of a syndication and before it looks like you did things structured as promissory notes, correct? Like before? Yeah. It was just corporation. Okay. Yeah, it was just corporate shareholders. Yeah, just simple. They just a shareholder, mostly friends and family and exemption.

No it’s good. And, but then now you’re doing more syndications. So I think the, it’ll be a smooth jump be to jump into the fund side of it. Yeah. After you do the syndication, the only thing that, because that’s just the pattern that I see, you talk to Bridger Pence and all these guys that would say, oh yeah, do you know what will be the track record of the previous deal?

Oh, it’s a syndication. What’s the track record of the syndication? Oh, my friends and family stuff and my own money stuff. So I think it’ll be like af So the point I’m making, I think after these this 6 million, then that may be a better idea. Because some of that money, instead of spending on that, I would just use it to, probably hire a marketing agency or pay for some ads and then get some, because you with a hundred thousand, or even with 20,000 bucks, you can get like a lot of qualified investors, maybe even in the us.

I don’t know if you mind that, but. But no, I think it’s a totally good idea. Just probably let’s just let’s just see the 6000001st and then, yeah. And then look at that next step. But it’s because, cause the thing is that we have the structure up. It’s you still have to sell. We, there’s still a cost of acquisition for the investors to fulfill it to go into the vehicle.

So even though the structure’s amazing, there’s still a cost of acquisition that you, we still have to work on. And it’s still a pain in the butt. Yeah. Oh, okay. I get you. Got you. I got you. It’s a really cool structure though. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. Yeah, cause that’s what I want to get into, like doing like a fund, but like how is it hard to get us investors to come into Canada or to invest into Canada, or they’re not really, mostly they’re not interested?

Or is it just a lot more, the only time I’ve seen when have I seen success with this? I’ve seen success for, so there’s somebody, you should probably meet him one day. He’s a member. He’s, his name’s Caleb. He has a bunch of university properties where he abs He accepts many US investors into his properties because he sells to he’s raising capital from doctors again.

Cause doctors are really rich in the US and they have cre of the money to invest. So in his subscription agreement, we just had a clause for us investors and then he’s getting some success with that. I the reason why I’m not entirely sure to be honest, we just tested it out and then people are saying yes.

I think it’s cuz doctors, we just need anybody that has the money. So I think he has a good track record. He is been in development for 20 years, university of property for around 20 years as well. He has a really good track record.

They have to deal with foreign risk, like the foreign, the currency risk they have to deal with that problem. But other than that, I’m not really too sure I just think the reason why people go to the US for the Canadian deals is because the volume and the market is bigger. If you can get a luminous, more volume of investors.

Yes. Yeah. Okay. Many would do, like if you look at Cambridge Wilkinson, and many of these investment banks don’t sell, a lot of them would do Canadian deals depending on the numbers. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So something obvious like this, it has to be a lot bigger. More like how you said on the last call, like investment banks, if it’s 25 million they’ll Look at it.

Yeah. Yeah. Like when you do your mutual fund trust, then I would look at engaging an investment bank for its would it be listed anywhere too? That’s another thing you can look at. You can look at just maybe just going up full reads and then just listing some, somewhere. Listing somewhere.

Okay, interesting. Because those, yeah, cuz those small check investors, if you list somewhere then it’s really easy to sell those small check investors on if you list on the cse, that’s a small it’s a small institute. I would ask them about that to see if that’s something that they do.

The axim device. Interesting. Yeah. They would list it. Okay. Interesting. I have a buddy who has a, it’s he has a small fund. I don’t know why they’ve only have a, on their website, they only have a few properties that they’ve done and he’s listed on the TSX and I think their share price is like very low, like a couple bucks.

But he’d be interested in investing in like private equity and helping raise capital. I haven’t approached him yet, but I guess like I. Is it beneficial going because I, I think you, like the liquidity is, like the volatility is higher, right? If you try to list, if you ever tried to list your fund on, listed to TSX or any of these other exchanges.

Yeah. But then the thing is that, from what I see, like it’s better than the O T C down south because you have to work with somebody who’s not gonna pump and dump it because, for example the ones up here are more regulated compared to the ones down south, like the O T C where they’ll treat your stock like garbage.

I think you just have to work over reputable somebody reputable that doesn’t pump and dump it. That’s the number one problem is people just knowingly pumping and dumping their clients. That’s probably the biggest problem out there. And then to have anti dilutive somebody that’s a big fan of any, I think anti dilutive and we can get into all those rabbit holes, but there’s some people that They avoid those problems by having a non-dilutive share structure for their fund.

And then you can make a lot of money from it. Like it’s insane. It’s really, that’s how I started raises com. I was at Dig Max. There were basically a penny stock. I got options, I took a few hundred grand and then from the options and then just paid for Facebook ads cuz it was amazing.

So there’s a lot of money in it. It’s just I’d just really be scared of the pumping dump because since it went up like in 2021 where everything was going up, then it went up for no other reason. There was no money there. It was just the it was just the stocks that went up. Yeah. Oh, okay.

No, no value. No value. It was just the stocks. That’s it. Yeah. I guess there’s sharks who, who’ll just, they’ll just pump and dump your stock and be like, they’ll probably pitch you, you don’t even know about what’s going on. Oh, and they’ll just crash. They say, oh yeah, it’s this company, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And then your stock price is going up, and then it just dumb, it just kills today. Yeah. It’s horrible. It’s the opposite of what we’re trying to do. Build value, yeah. Yeahinteresting. Interesting. Yeah. All. Yeah. So I guess what, I guess what is your what, so what can your program do?

I know I sent, I submitted my thing. What would be the process that you guys would help me do going, doing next, moving forward? Good question. So next steps and everything. So I like to write this down and before we conclude, so there is some redundancy because you’re really, you already have a lot going on with you.

First it’s the prep. So what we did is the, so you submitted the data room for the prep. So then there’s the marketing, which is redundance. So that’s a pitch deck executive summary. So that’s redundant, but somebody will send that over to you. It’s just an empty draft. So we can, so that’s part of what you filled in is what you’ll get, but you don’t really need it, which is okay.

Okay. After that you’ll get the, so as well, you’ll get the subscription agreement. That’s pretty much it. And it’s really easy. So we use the accredit investor exemption. So with the subscription agreement, is that the, is that kind of like similar to the term sheet or l loi or I can show you an exam.

Let me pull up an ex exam, actual example. Let me show you Caleb’s deal. Just one moment. It, yeah, it’s, yeah, that’s pretty much exactly. It’s like the, it’s the agreement that the investor gets that says, oh, it’s not the term sheet, it’s just an LOI type ah man. Or is it like, I want to use a better descript.

What’s a different descriptor? Canada and America, Canadian subscription agreement. I’m just pulling this up. Yeah, this is exactly what you’d get. So just one second. Share screen.

So is this the correct one? 20 pages? Yeah, just, yeah, just something like, oh, go on. What’s that? No, I was just saying it’s 30 pages. It’s like these agreements get big. Oh, it’s, that’s really short actually, but Oh, it’s pretty short. Yeah, it’s, cuz this one takes in Americans, that’s why it’s long.

But this is what you’d get. Basically it’s the documents, it’s, it explains, so here’s what it does. It explains like what is. Where are all these things, right? And then

let me just get to the points. So then the investor has to fill in, they have to fill in what they are. And trust me, so many of these at credit investors, they’re they’ve seen tons of these, like they see this and then they’re just like, oh, they, sometimes their brain goes in autopilot and then they just know where exactly where to check.

That’s just, they’re so used to this. So then what they’ll do, they’ll fill in, I think it’s f no, not f. There’s one of these that they have to fill in. Yeah, so J so either they own, basically they’re an a credit investor. They’re checking something that says they’re a credit investor.

So that’s why I was saying with the exempt, so all exempt edge and all these things do b basically it’s glorified DocuSign or Panoc. So then they’ll have this all on on DocuSign or something, what’s similar or they’ll have it on a website or an online thing, and then they just check to make sure that, yeah, they checked it.

And then after that, they check it, then they scroll down then it just says, okay, they sign it. Then here it just says, oh, here’s my income. Because, you have to make sure that the person has to make sure that they’re actually have money so that they’re actually accredited, right? So then they just fill in all this stuff.

They’re not income. And then they say, yeah, I understand. I can lose all my money. And then you initial here, I understand I can do this. No. They sign here. Yeah. And then they just, so they just sign and initial all this stuff and this part. Yeah. And then this part. So basically from from this page all the way to the bottom of this subscription agreement, 99% of all Ontario subscription agreements, even all around Canada, they all look exactly like this with probably minor differences.

It’s not it’s not like America where it’s different between each deal. That is, it’s the same. It’s the same stuff, right? But that, that, that’s pretty much it. And they just sign all this and then And then I guess the term sheet is a little bit different, right? It’s more into the deal, yeah. Yeah. Like the term sheet is really just it’s really just a simple let me see if I can,

because like when they fill this out, does that mean that they can come into the LP structure or with that? They’re buying what they’re doing they’re buying limited partnership. So Yes. So the answer is yes, because they’re paying money to buy the el, the limited partnership units, and then that’s the security that they’re buying, right?

So the quick answer is yes, because they’re buying those units. Okay. Yeah. And then you can have them sign another agreement as well. Or you can include it on here. Most people just include everything in here, which tells ’em what exactly they’ll get. Okay. Yeah. And then Are you allowed? Cuz like, how I would need to do is I would need to take a deposit as well.

Like maybe 10% deposit or 15% deposit. Are you allowed to do that with dlp? Yep. You are. It’s just that some people they get scared with the refund thing. So it depends on if you, so are you going to allow a refund or not? If they flake? Probably not because in, in reason, right?

Like I, my biggest thing is that like right now I have to, I’m putting together, I’m trying to raise, trying to get, I need to put a deposit in by Wednesday, 150,000 that I’m trying to put together right now from a couple people. That once the deal goes firm, I would have to put in a hundred, I’d have to put in about 300,000.

So I would try to have my capital raised by the time before we go firm on the deal. And I would use some of the deposits to help go firm. Oh, okay. Got it. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So instead of phrasing it like non-refundable, so basically it is non-refundable, but instead of phrasing it like that that can just be the first closing.

Cuz some people they have two ways, right? Some people they would say, oh we have multiple closings, and then this will be the first closing. And then the first closing requires a capital call of X amounts for you to go on and work on the asset. So then instead of it’s being like a de, so that’s, these are just different ideas.

Instead of it being like, okay, we have to do it, we have to do a deposit of the total raise. You can just say that the total raise is this, but the raise has multiple closings. The first closing is this, and the capital call is due by this time. So that there’s no even phrase is this marketing so that there’s no even word of like refund or anything.

Is this oh, that’s just the first closing. And then you didn’t, and then the capital was used in the first closing and you already got the securities just so that nobody can say that, oh, he didn’t do a refund or there was a deposit or anything. That’s just one idea. And I’d probably talked to I, I share some ideas with Addie on this because he was a bit scared of the refund thing because he did it and he structured as a refund and then he did no refund because he was a bit kind of scared of cuz you know, he came from he came from Nigeria like in 2019 and he wanted to build a reputation with investors after moving here.

So he was a bit more nervous. But but yeah you could be a bit more bold, but I would just do it as a closing, as an idea and then that’s how I structured it. Okay. That’s a good idea. Okay. Yeah so to answer your question, yeah, you’re gonna get this and then the last thing you get is, and you already have the financials.

If somebody doing the financials, we, we assist with that as well. The only thing is that we do that. Then the next thing is that we do some introductions to some people in their network. We just some manual email introductions. If you take the lead and there’s like a little button if you can click on it.

But really with you we, I think the best thing to do is just to start really going really hard on LinkedIn. That’ll be the quickest way for us to have some quick wins and just book appointments. My only regret is that I wish we started this a little bit earlier so that we could have lined people up for more soft commitments.

But we’re here so let’s just yeah. Let’s just haul as and then, Okay. Start doing the outreach. Yep. Do you have anyone in your network who would maybe, who could probably partner with me to help raise capital or might have like that you guys have immediately in your network that’s like in Canada right now or, yep.

Yeah, so we, we have some people like, some people that are rich themselves. Like it depends by people like yeah, we have some people that are rich themselves. But then we also, we have, what we have a lot of is more like sales people who Okay. Go out and hunts. So we can bring you some of them if you’d like.

Okay. Because there’s some people that we work with, they say that agents don’t wanna build a sales team. They don’t want to do any of the talking to investors. Or they want to have somebody sale side by side with them. We can get, there’s some agencies that I work with, they rotate, they’re sales managers for people raising money, and then they just rotate people that just hunt people and then call them on the phone like this and have a presentation with them.

So it depends on how you want to do it. I think we just need to just start on LinkedIn then and get you appointments and then start going from there. That’s just my 2 cents, but but we can do that if you like as well. Okay, awesome. Awesome. Okay, so marketing’s credit exemption subscription.

And then the third thing, it is finance, but then this is redundant finance. Yeah. Is this gonna be like an empty, it’s like an empty shell. We can just start with, but the real thing that will help you is a sub. And then after you get the sub. Then when the investors are more serious, then you can get a lawyer.

It’s a legal red line. I can introduce you to OC, who’s we played, he played football at Queens and then he’s he’s the exempt market dealer cuz we’re launching the exempt market dealer in a few weeks actually. And then he’s actually helping the council and ours. So he’s a good contact for sure that we can get you in touch with.

Awesome, awesome. Yeah. Awesome. Cool. Yeah. You said legal red line is just just crossing out, changing a little, a few things. Yeah. How would be went to get to that stage with the redlining? Yeah. It could be anywhere between it could be anywhere between two K to 6k I’m not really sure, but it can be anywhere And in between that we try to keep it low because most of the work is already done.

It’s more of them just saying, oh, do you mean this? Did you mean this instead of this? Why is this here? That’s. Instead of them just creating a new questionnaire and everything. And we can get to try to, we can try to get it even cheaper, but I don’t know. I sense that the money really isn’t the problem.

It’s more about just getting a deal done. But yeah, we can introduce it to him and a few other people. And then again for you if there’s one thing we can take away so number one, REITs, or sorry, not REITs, fund trusts. Amazing idea. And I find it very cool. I think you can keep it as more of a plan.

You, I think you can allocate some money to acquire investor appointments for this first deal. And that could be a quick win. And then you can use the fund trust after you, after you raise some of the money there to build the track record, and then to use that for more of the the deals that you want to have after.

And then you already have the deals prepared and you wanna raise a substantial amount of money. So that’s one idea. The second idea is, You’re gonna get a subscription agreement and then you’ll have to be redlined when investors are about to close it. That’s the main value that you’re gonna get from the draft that we’ll send you.

And then the third thing is, yeah, we need to work on LinkedIn outreach. So I recommend you go and raises.com/u link or just cause that’s where we send invite and we don’t make any referral fees on that. And then there’s another thing called actually let’s just start there. There are other ways that we can get profiles for you.

We can rinse out links and profiles for you and you can rinse out a hundred if you want. It’s crazy. You can rents out as many as you want and do outreach there. But let’s just start with, get into things set up and then when it’s set up, then just report back and then and then we can get the outreach campaigns, the messaging and all that stuff sorted.

And how effective is that really? Is it really like that effective people actually wanna talk and when you reach out to them, hours are just like a numbers game. Type of thing. Do you have scripts and stuff already that, how to reach out to people or, yeah. Yeah. We have scripts and it’s pretty re it’s pretty reliable.

So then we have, so the four to 6% connection rates so connection requests, so 500 connection request per week. Okay. Week four, 6% conversion to appointments or no conversion to connection. And then of that we see roughly five to seven appointments booked per accounts. So those are some numbers that we see.

Okay. And that’s like I feel like I can close, like all I that’s where I wanna focus on. I’m trying to build my team to make offers. I have a very good guy who’s on a commission who’s like doing networking to help my deal flow. Nice. People doing my modeling, making offers, and I just want to be talking to investors all day, just figuring out like building connections with investors, what they wanna invest, what’s their what’s their horizons, and just putting them on a list.

That’s what I want to do all day. And then nice. Like doing my marketing YouTube marketing, Facebook marketing, just like education, marketing, like doing videos and stuff like that. That’s good. You have the website and the portal all set. You have some sort of website and all that, and the automations and all that stuff.

I use Calendly for my appointments, and then I have my so if you go to my website, yai group.ca you can book an appointment with me through there and then okay. I have like my record’s, my information there and stuff on there. Okay, good. So then after they go on. Okay. Investor login in.

Okay good. Exempt edge. Interesting. Yeah, I just linked it to exempt edge. It’s not, I haven’t set it up with them, but I just have it there for now. I thought I would be using them in the future, but it’s when you go it discuss your investment gold with us here. So that’s just links to the calendar.

Oh, okay. No, it’s good. It’s good. So then, but then the thing is that the people that book an account, Lee, similar to what you’ve probably seen from us, you could look at getting people you could look at getting people plugged into an email and SMS campaign from there. And you don’t have to go into the technicals, but you can just, anyone who books on Calendly, you can get them on a separate, either a separate software or something else to just, yeah.

So what I would do is, yeah. Yeah I would use like monday.com or something Good. Because I heard have automation set up for my property management business with Monday and stuff. Yeah. So I can I have an automations guy that I got from Upwork. He can set up I think it’s Twilio or something for text messaging.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Stuff. And I can get it all linked together. I know. I don’t go high level when I look at it. It’s not as, I don’t know, like it’s not as user friendly and I, I don’t know. And for me, why don’t you just use the why don’t you get the developer’s account and just give it to the me, sell it to the members, like 50 bucks a month or something like that.

Oh, we have that. Is this, it’s a paint. Because the thing is that when we have the yeah, we have the white label version, but then if we have the go high level the support’s kind of on us. Which is a Oh, okay. I hear you. So then sometimes when we refer people to use Goya level directly, it’s actually less work because we’re just going into their Zoom call and then they’re just using it.

It’s you could probably imagine we’re just going into their go level and then, oh, if you have a problem, go bother Goya level. And then we just show you, we show you like where to go on go level. But then if it’s on us, then it’s oh, we have to have our own Twilio integrations working and we have to have our own mail grid integrations working.

It’s annoying. Okay. Is it that like, I don’t know, it just like when I go inside the back end, it’s just, yeah, it just look, feels cheap to me and not user friendly. Yeah. Listen, I hate it too. No, I hate it as well, but it’s very cheap. So I use personally, we don’t use it, we use Calendly.

We use close.com and we use i never com. What’s that? I never heard of close dot coms. Yeah it’s fantastic. It’s fantastic. Like you can see. Built for growth. Okay. Nice. It’s fantastic. I could see it records every single call that we have with somebody. It record like every phone call, it records everything.

It’s really Okay. Like a pleasure to use. It’s like the, it’s like I can be in there all day. Now let me show you yeah. So here it is on our side. So yeah. The way we have it set up and one thing you can try. So on, whenever we connect with people on LinkedIn, the LinkedIn connections come in to this automatically.

And then we have somebody that outbound calls them to book them with us. So it all takes things from LinkedIn then, and they’ve get booked with us. So that’s one thing. The second thing is that, yeah, it’s just really smooth and we can look through all the past call history. Lemme just see some people that are called

Yeah, so you can see the entire hello, this is call history. And so this can go back for years and you can just see everything. So we just like it. Okay. So the point I’m making is I hate it too, but the, when it comes to price, you can’t beat it. So the way we’re using it, we’re just going to use it on the back end because if you use an email software and you have 20,000 investors or a hundred thousand investors, drip will charge you thousands of dollars and go level won’t charge you anything extra.

So is this, some small stuff like that. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. But anyway not to get too obsessed with those technicals. Yeah. At the end of the day, we’re just going to help you with the mainly subscription agreement. We’re gonna try to get you some appointments, perhaps like of these five to seven we’d get one of them will be really serious, or two of them will be very serious per accounts.

That’s why we recommend we have some tools that we, it’s called AIA and we can get you that later so you can get as many LinkedIn accounts as you want. So that’s how we get the bookings up. So that’s how we scale later, but we first have to make sure that we’re getting good results with one account.

So we’ll get you on one account and start doing the outreach for this. And then with the outreach, is that included in the raises or is that’s like an extra to get the ba to do this stuff with the LinkedIn and stuff? Yeah, it’s extra because U Link is a separate it’s it’s 75 to a hundred dollars per account.

And then if you want to rent the and accounts, you can do that. It’s it’s $40 a month for that. Okay. Lemme just show you the so profiles. I’ll send you the link. Just one second profiles. Yeah. So just check this out. I’ll send you the link in the chat. Alrighty. And then that’s, if you want to get any buy any LinkedIn profiles from there.

Okay, so U link, how many U links? So just u link’s, just one account. You do, you get right or? Yeah, you link. You link U Link is a tool to send a LinkedIn outreach with so you can add as many people to U link. And then you can use your profile, you can use your teammates profiles, which I recommend.

I recommend GIS scan all your teammates on there. And then after your, you and your teammates are all exhausted, then you can start using the VA’s profile. Then you can use the automated profiles as well that we sent. So that’s the idea, because the more the better. Okay. And then file. Okay. I’m just trying.

Yeah. And then the whole point is that we’re just booking them on calendar. We’re booking them to book a call with you right away. So that’s what we’re doing. Okay. And how much is it to get the, to do the book calls, scale order now Pitch. Oh, for the VAs? Yeah, for the VAs and all that stuff.

Yeah. Like they’re a dime a dozen. So for them you can get them on a part-time for $6 an hour for probably a few hundred bucks a month. It’s flexible, so you can get them working one hour a day, get ’em working six hours a day. I recommend whatever adds up to three or 400 bucks a month to get them to just always be on there a few times a day, just something small.

They just have to type and then you, they book the call of you and then we train them on what to type, and then they fill in all the the guesswork. And then the last thing I’ll say before we go, because I really do have to go because I actually have to eat, but the last thing before I go is sometimes we have it so that it’s structured as a two call close.

So the first call Could be just touching base with the investor, and we have a script for that. We have an outbound script as well. And obviously you’ve sold people, so we don’t have to teach you that much or anything. It’s just some ideas for you. So we have to call, we have some scripts for an initial call.

And then after that it’s okay, hey, I don’t have time. I’d like to walk through the investment opportunity in more detail, something like that. And then that’s when you get on the more serious call where you bring your you bring your financial analyst on, and then you can really just go through the opportunity more seriously, and then you’ve made an offer, right?

So the idea is we’re getting on one call to just, see if they’re qualified, see if, okay, they’re credited, are they open and willing to invest in real estates, and then once they’re, and then is this something that they’re looking to do is like some points soon, or is it like, oh, they’re just thinking about, they’re not, they’re a tire kicker.

And then once they’re serious, then we get them on a serious call, and then it’ll be you and you’re associate and then. Yeah, I like that two call closing. At least you’re qualifying them and before you just go right into a pitch on the first meeting with them. I agree. I agree. The only thing, it depends on your, you’re it’s a bit annoying to go on people’s calls that are unqualified.

That’s why eventually you’re gonna just end up probably delegating that. And then you just take the serious calls because the reaches a point where it’s your time is too valuable. After you learn, the people are not serious. Yeah so I found that people, they don’t really fill in those forms properly.

That’s, it’s best for us to go on a call of them and talk to them as a human being. To see, cuz that way the market’s just talking to you raw, yeah. You can’t really hide what the market is saying once you actually you hear everything in their voice. You hear the tone of their voice.

You hear, they answer every question you hear how serious or not serious they are. And then there’s, it’s priceless. There’s nothing that could replace just talking to a human being and hearing a guy’s voice. I love it. So you can learn so much about about what people want, exactly. It’s true. Yeah. Yeah, that too. Thank you so much for your time and yeah, looking forward to getting all this stuff started. Yeah, I appreciate it. No, no worries. I enjoyed it. I didn’t even feel the time pasted that far. I actually really enjoyed it so listen, nice getting in touch.

We’re gonna get you the subscription agreement and then if you can do, go on the U link stuff and then after you get on the U link you get approved, then we can start, doing the automations for you. All right? Okay. Perfect. Awesome. Cool. Have a good night. Alright man. Have a good night brother.

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