Investor Strategy Call – November 1st 2021
Speaker1: [00:01:50] All right. It’s getting set up here. Oh, Clemons here today. All right. Just getting set up here. Hello. I see that Quartz has joined us. All right, this may be quite one suppose I see that you joined, obviously, I know where we got your support notes, but any hello? Yeah, on the panel, I have matter the CFA, one of two things that are working with us in as well one of our associates who helps us with the family office relations. Yeah. Any questions then? We’re here to help. So. In just a if you have anything, just raise your hand and so on. I know, I know your we saw your support tickets as well. All right. Sure, you have no questions. We can go over your your hypothesis sheet leave right now, if you like. I see no reason.
Speaker2: [00:04:06] Hello.
Speaker1: [00:04:07] Hello.
Speaker2: [00:04:09] Hey. Good to see you.
Speaker1: [00:04:11] Nice to see you as well.
Speaker2: [00:04:14] Yeah, so I met with Debbie today and I have a list of to dos before tomorrow. When they’re going to, we’re going to start doing onboarding for the ABC.
Speaker1: [00:04:23] Yeah.
Speaker2: [00:04:25] And so the hypothesis is one of them log in to raises. So I sent to you guys my generic email for the V.C.. And then. And making an account for Gamma right now, I’m just trying to figure out the plug ins for the spreadsheet. That’s what I’m on in the moment and I yammer Yammer. Why a? Hmm, that’s what they recommended overfocus. Because I guess focus you can only send out 20 per day or a limited number.
Speaker1: [00:05:04] Exactly. Yeah. We just had a discussion with me because yet another male merged or GMES. Those ones are better. Apparently, apparently things have changed. And so we’re going to actually update the SOPs, the standard operating procedure.
Speaker2: [00:05:17] Perfect. Ok. One of the big things on my plate is to create the message template. I haven’t even put my head down to start looking at that part yet, though, so I can’t really ask for anything until I get on it. But. Yeah, I think the rest is honestly pretty straightforward, I got a LinkedIn profile premium email extractor, I’ll plug Osun, Oyo or ascend over the top. Oh yeah. And then Counly is kind of a problem because I have an account, many accountants. It’s on a website currently, so to change it, I should. I made a mistake when I made it, and I should have had it just in my name. But I have it with my company name, so I not to make a new one, especially for this. So I’ll do that. Got it and then team over
Speaker1: [00:06:21] And see what.
Speaker2: [00:06:23] And then I’ve got to make a team longer account.
Speaker1: [00:06:26] Yeah, exactly like those, those folks, they do have their own tracker. But I mean, I like team loggers. I believe it’s like free. So I mean, I don’t see why not getting them to. It’s good to have time tracking on your site, too.
Speaker2: [00:06:42] Yeah, it’s really good. She was telling me. It’s really good. Like, they’ll even like, take screenshots so I can see what they’re doing in my accounts and stuff. So that’s
Speaker1: [00:06:50] Good. Exactly. And bear in mind the only thing to bear in mind. I mean, they they actually just recovered from coronavirus. And so they came back. May’s team so, you know, just just FYI. So then we do have another we have a lot of partners and some that we’re adding over the next week that are based in America, and then they outsource to Philippines and outsourced Colombia and everything, just so just so that we wait. The point is we have options, but tell you what. Like the so then the outreach hypothesis, I think that that’s probably the most important thing. So now that we have matter on the line, I’d like to if it’s OK with you, I’d like to go through that. And then also in regards to the after off the call, we’ll do the logging. Obviously, we set up the log and give you that access. And then when it came to the website after the message hypothesis, there’s a Clickfunnels template you can load in if you choose to use Clickfunnels. But on this call we have Ad Adda is doing a real estate deal in Canada and then for his situation, he’s using another piece of software that is really easy for him. Maybe you can discuss with him about that, but. Other than that, I think I’ll think let’s nail down this hypothesis here,
Speaker2: [00:08:07] And then just before we jump into that, I did make a I opened an account on ideals have never used ideals for Daydream. I haven’t. Ok, I was between that one and and dignify or digit, where were the two top ones? And did you fi was ridiculously expensive. It can. Yeah, it’s got to. I was probably looking at like 200 plus dollars a month for that one, so I was a bit too much. But the ideals, I think it’s about one hundred dollars a month. We’ll see it. This one’s got a 30 day trial, so. But I did send it to the to the guys, and I haven’t really got any feedback yet, but I’ve uploaded all the stuff from the TAC, from the tech data room. Yes, and it’s all they’re empty. So do you think it’s appropriate for me to ask them to to? I made one of them. The guy who seems to be doing all the financial tables and everything. I made him an administrator so he can upload everything they’re using. It’s appropriate.
Speaker1: [00:09:19] I think I think it’s a mix, so it depends on your relationship with them because like the data room stuff, the only thing that’s I’m kind of a little bit of more apprehension. I have a little bit of apprehension about the lack of the because. Ok, so then we don’t have any there’s no agreement if the investor says yes. All right. So there’s no there’s no like investor agreements or subscription agreements. So. And. You know, so that kind of that kind of is pretty important either because how does the person wired the money, right? Or how do they? So I think like it looks like the correspondence has to be like just getting people on calls and then waiting for all that data room to be filled. But the problem is that if they wait for the second.
Speaker2: [00:10:07] Yeah, and that’ll kill the deal.
Speaker1: [00:10:09] Yeah, because time kills deals, right, as we know. So yeah, I’d be proactive and let them know so that you’re in
Speaker2: [00:10:17] It again today. I did again send them an email, I send them all. So they send me an email on Saturday asking my process and my timelines, and I thought that my nine point process that we’re going through. And and then I told them I would have the process. I would hope to have the process done by the 12th. And according to me, it’s very, very it should be very easy to do so. But the data is really our big problem. And I mentioned in there that I sent in the list without the data room. So I said you could get started on compiling this stuff. And then I said, Yeah, we do need that subscription agreement so we can get into the compliance stuff to.
Speaker1: [00:10:57] Yeah, because everything because all the other stuff is important. But then really the subscription agreement is how the person is going to send the money. So that’s really the ultimate that’s like the ultimate thing or even or investment agreements, whatever agreements, because without that, then money can’t be transferred, right? So so I think I’d really just put that on them so that if an investor if if the deal happens slower than you wants, at least it’s not the fault of the deal not being ready because those we only there’s only one. You only have one reputation of these people, right?
Speaker2: [00:11:30] So yeah, I got this email here and I just there’s something. There’s the last line I didn’t even it might be. It might be concerning, actually. So he says a subscription agreement has not yet been drafted. There is a few steps prior to the review and signing of such a document. Most importantly, we need to finalize the waterfall distributions between us and the existing management team. Once it is clear that we are moving ahead, all necessary documents will be drafted and shared. So then then at the same time, he sends me an email on Saturday saying, Hey, how? How advanced are your connections? What are they interested in in the real estate as well? Like these kinds of things, it sounds like. They were putting the horse or the carriage of the horse a little bit.
Speaker1: [00:12:21] Potentially, yeah, because yeah, just to protect yourself like from a because we’re not we’re not lawyers or anything, but just from an informational point of view to protect yourself like. The thing is, is you just want to be in a position where. You know where, you know, you know, the type of agreement that they’re signing and then that they’ve gotten the appropriate council to have that agreement? Right. Because you don’t know the agreement that you’re signing. So it’s an unknown. So even if you talk to an American investor and then they actually say yes and then you put money in and then it hasn’t been filed the right way or it breaks the FCA rules or whatever, then that’s pretty. That’s pretty critical. So I really look at that. And plus it can slow down the deal, but along the way, we can still plan and then get ready to hit the markets. And as soon as they’re ready, then we have the list of people that go out to right away and that they were just shooting at the and in the way I do it, I just say, Oh, listen, yeah, we have people that are already just. You know, I just want to understand the. You know, I want to back load everything, so that’s when we get calls because you aren’t going to get calls when you get calls, then the momentum is still there, right?
[00:13:28] Right. Hmm. Yeah.
Speaker1: [00:13:32] Ok. Ok, cool, so then with that, yeah, I think I think we can just crank out this because we have them out of here just to review the hypothesis sheet really quickly. Eddie, Eddie is asking, yeah, Eddie is asking, I thought focus is what’s the best? I think it is too. Is this that the the agency that we worked with, they’re saying that they couldn’t hit two hundred a day, so they chose to go over us. I think it’s I think it’s it’s either or, you know, six, is it one half dozen the other? But I’m going to discuss with another US agency and and get their opinion as well and bring them on.
Speaker2: [00:14:16] And then I have the seat open right now, so we could look into that, if you like.
Speaker1: [00:14:24] Oh yeah. It would be easier if you share your screen on your site, they’ll be much easier. I’ll bring you to.
Speaker2: [00:14:30] I just going to have to. I’m just going to have to join with my computer. I’m just on my phone. One second, please. Oh, no
Speaker1: [00:14:34] Worries. Ok and matter while matter while Coles is getting set up. So this is the UFC deal that you reviewed just just in the back of your mind and the sheet that he has, this is a sheet that’s that. That tries to guess the types of investors that would be most likely to be interested in it. And so just based on just I don’t know if you remember, but just based on your, we’re going to look through to see like, OK, are there any corrections we can make to it? Take a look.
Speaker3: [00:15:11] Yeah. No, I remember, though, the details of the deal were shared before, and I did look at the the outrage hypothesis, she’d just now go.
Speaker1: [00:15:24] There we go.
Speaker3: [00:15:25] And yeah, so we’ll just wait for called, and I think I have like a one or two points that I would like to talk about.
Speaker1: [00:15:34] Yeah, fantastic. Now. All right, I see Kenneth is joining us as well. Yeah, we’re just waiting for Colts’ to rejoin and then we’re going to go through his prepared preparation. All right, so I see two quotes. You’re not letting me make you panelist to share the screen. Because while we this wait for a thing called is getting set up. Obviously, anyone have any additional questions or thoughts or insights in their field as we wait here? Hello. Go.
Speaker4: [00:19:49] Hey, sorry for the delay there.
Speaker1: [00:19:51] No worries, man. We’ll bring it to the panel.
Speaker4: [00:20:22] Ok, I need permission for screen sharing, please, man.
Speaker1: [00:20:31] All panelists.
Speaker4: [00:20:49] Can you see it?
Speaker1: [00:20:50] Yes, we can. Ok, so the pretext is pretty straightforward, so. Something so even go ahead of the curve, so on this call, can we can we actually? In one sentence, can we even summarise the type of private equity transaction here and in terms in like one sentence because he said it’s like 50 percent ownership because yeah, we know that it’s not dead. It’s not a public deal. But then I think going forward, we can even refine this further for the future sheets. So what exactly are the terms in one sentence?
Speaker4: [00:21:34] It’s so hard to put it into one sentence, so we got two companies, we have corporate and we have the master franchise, and the deal is to become 51 percent partner of both. But by being the financial partner. But there is, however, a new model out, and I’ll send it to you guys because they’ve broken down the corporate and the franchise a little bit differently, so it might have changed.
Speaker1: [00:22:16] So we can still see Microsoft Word, by the way.
Speaker4: [00:22:23] Ok. I’ll change it as soon as I get it opened here. My computer has a lot open right now.
Speaker1: [00:22:37] Yeah.
Speaker4: [00:23:40] I was in I had everything in Microsoft before, and then when I went to Google Workspace, I moved everything over and it’s kind of made my life very chaotic. Oh, trying to chase find everything again. Sure enough. So. Oh, here we go. Ok, good. All right. So if I just. You know, to start sharing, then restarted again. Ok, so we’re looking at something that’s confidential, who is on our on the call with us, so are we?
Speaker1: [00:24:29] Yes, hello. There are people. Should I pause the recording and continue it later?
Speaker4: [00:24:39] Yeah, this is probably probably going to be shown to just anyone, so do you want to do actually show up? We just do this at a different time.
Speaker1: [00:24:49] Yeah, let’s let’s just move this one later. This is this one different?
Speaker4: [00:24:52] Ok. Ok. No problem. Tara, did you not
[00:25:05] Just get back to you?
Speaker4: [00:25:34] All right, I did send it to you to support, I don’t know if you guys can actually look at that. Yup. That’s probably the best way. And then if you go under r0r there, that’s where the adjustments were made.
Speaker1: [00:25:49] Oh, understood. And then based on that, so didn’t tell you what. And based on that, yeah, then it used to, honestly, is just to really just say because we did this in the last call, it’s really just to say the because when you have this sentence, right, that that we’re sending out to investors just to see the benefits of the terms of like one sentence just to get their attention right and then we’ll work on it better and I work on getting that together.
Speaker4: [00:26:19] Ok. Ok, so you want to cancel the share for now?
Speaker1: [00:26:25] Yeah, we can cancel that. But then I guess in regards to I guess in regards to the hypothesis sheet, should we talk about that later as well?
Speaker4: [00:26:36] Yeah. Did you want to book a call? Are you available for that?
Speaker2: [00:26:40] Oh, yeah, yeah, we’ll
Speaker1: [00:26:41] Do it separately, for sure. So we’ll just go off. Great. Thank you. Perfect.
Speaker4: [00:26:46] Okay.
Speaker1: [00:26:49] All right. Any any other items or anything else?
Speaker4: [00:26:58] I got I got quite a bit to do on my list, actually for myself. And then we can cover the rest when we meet next. I think that are probably best.
Speaker1: [00:27:06] Perfect. Let’s make it happen. Yes.
Speaker4: [00:27:08] All right. Thank you.
Speaker1: [00:27:11] All right. So I see Eddie here as well and any questions, thoughts, insights into the whole process. It seems seems a bit quiet, so we’ll just leave it for a few minutes and. And no worries if there’s no more questions or ideas, but you just leave it for a few minutes in case there any, and then maybe we can end it early. All right. All right, looks like it looks like there are no more questions. I mean, I mean, what we can do, we can. We can we can end it now, if you like, and then we can just discuss with colds right now in confidence. There are no more questions. I’ll give it’s one more minute. Oh, do. Although I didn’t
Speaker5: [00:29:25] Want to kill myself.
Speaker1: [00:29:28] Oh, you hear yourself now or sorry?
Speaker5: [00:29:30] Just give me a minute something else to explain. No worries. Let’s get. And have a little video. It’s a kind of game, you know?
Speaker1: [00:29:51] Yeah, you’ve seen you have a little video, you said.
Speaker5: [00:29:54] Yeah. Just want to I mean, it’s still a work in progress. I just want to have your thoughts on it.
Speaker1: [00:30:00] Oh yeah. Let me promote you to the panelists. All right. Yep, we’re here to see if. I cannot share screen. Oh, it’s
Speaker5: [00:30:17] Expected, it’s somebody else’s to shame.
Speaker1: [00:30:21] Ok. So I think you should be able to now. Try now.
Speaker5: [00:30:31] Ok. Now also this year. Do. Ok. Oh. Thanks to my screen.
Speaker1: [00:30:53] Yes, I could see the house there. But.
Speaker5: [00:31:01] Yeah. I mean, like some. Well, the stuff from the beginning. Oh, absolutely. I don’t know why he keeps talking. I think something’s wrong
Speaker1: [00:31:27] With the video.
Speaker5: [00:31:29] Yeah, it keeps stopping, I don’t know why.
Speaker1: [00:31:31] Oh. Seems to be working for me.
Speaker5: [00:31:40] Yeah, I don’t know what happened before. It is the old one. There’s a better one. Well, OK. Just trying to get your take on it.
Speaker1: [00:31:54] Yeah. So so far, let me just watch the entire thing.
Speaker5: [00:31:58] Ok. And this is the old one. The new one is better. Maybe I join on Wednesday.
Speaker1: [00:32:05] Ok. Yeah, no worries. I mean, I get the overall idea then. But but overall, like this one is for the for like, so where is this video going to be shown? Is it going to be shown after the investor puts in their email or before? Or where is it going to be shown?
Speaker5: [00:32:21] It’s it’s going to be on the landing page is going to be on the email. I sent out an email. It’s going to be there and it to be on the ground as well. I think we can put the link on Groundbreaker as well. Now the platform we’re using.
Speaker1: [00:32:43] Ok, nice. The only yeah, the only thing I just watch out for is like because at the beginning they saw the projected returns and stuff like that. That may be a bit of a gray area because then it may be, oh, you’re talking about the deal terms. So if you find somebody that is really litigious, they may say that, but I just look at that. Other than that, I think it’s good. And then you’re saying that you did not want to be better. Yeah. The only thing is that you’re seeing that, you know, there are some places like you’re seeing that there are people inside and stuff like that and some of the residents and then they the people didn’t really, you know, they did. Really.
Speaker5: [00:33:15] Yeah, that was when we were doing due diligence. We just took some pictures.
Speaker1: [00:33:20] Ok, cool. But overall, like matter, do you have any insights onto the this is a quick video. And do you have any insights on what you saw?
Speaker3: [00:33:34] Um, nothing, really, I mean, just it’s basically this like showing the property and like all the financial information like we already reviewed before.
Speaker1: [00:33:44] Yeah.
Speaker3: [00:33:44] So it just part of the process. Yeah, but but nothing to add here you.
Speaker1: [00:33:50] That’s pretty straightforward. I guess the only thing is like to learn more. So you’ve seen that the video will be on the landing page, and it will be.
Speaker5: [00:34:02] Now there’s a link to it as well on the on the investor page on Groundbreaker.
Speaker1: [00:34:09] Ok. Ok, I look at the call to action because in the call to action, you’re saying if you want to learn more, call your number. So that’s good. So it’s like call your phone number and then deal that Cindy hyphen. So then because if because if the person if the investor looks at the video, the person looks at the video and then the video is already if it just goes to the same landing page. And so the videos on the landing page and it goes to the same landing page. It’s maybe it’s a bit redundant. So my point is like, I’d really think about what you want this person to do, like if they want to call you or if they want to go to a website and then just focus on one CTA call to action, then I think would be good.
Speaker5: [00:34:52] Yeah, but at times, why would decide to do that at times for one reason or the other that somebody couldn’t get on the on the on the on the side? The easiest way is, OK, I could pick a car. I just pick my phone and call this individual or I just picked my phone. I don’t have time going to the websites just more or less trying to give an option as to what whoever is looking at is comfortable with. Some people don’t have time for website something. We do just want to have a chat with you. I had a chat with someone about four weeks ago. He said it has no time for Zoom. We should meet in person.
Speaker1: [00:35:32] Interesting.
Speaker5: [00:35:32] So, but well, it’s about I think it’s about sixty six, sixty seven, sixty eight years old, guy. So he doesn’t have time for that. So it all depends on who you’re talking to.
Speaker1: [00:35:50] You know, yeah, yeah, like if they’re old, then the fun thing is just better,
Speaker5: [00:35:55] It does better for them at times.
Speaker1: [00:35:58] Yeah, as long as long as you’re making it so that only people that are. That are serious are the ones that are calling you so that you don’t waste your time. And then as long as those are the only ones that I see in the video, then
Speaker5: [00:36:10] Yeah, OK. Just just just before we go limp with something else. Yeah, please just pull up. Just. And I see my screen,
Speaker1: [00:36:30] Yes, I can see I can still see the screen with the video.
Speaker5: [00:36:35] Oh, OK. Why is that?
Speaker1: [00:36:37] Ok, so now I see a black, now it’s out.
Speaker5: [00:36:42] But again. Oh, I don’t know.
Speaker1: [00:36:48] We yes, we can.
Speaker5: [00:36:51] I think so. Like on the on the landing page, this this is more or less something else. I think this is where you’re going to see. But on the benefit side, we only show just about three. We’re not showing everything right. We should, then the next thing is click to learn more. Yeah, right. So just to learn more on what the benefits are in terms of the investment I like to see this is what we think is going to happen. What we think is the potential, then the benefits of actually looking at multifamily or looking at this kind of deals. So. And one of my mentors pointed something out to me that we tend to towards the fact that you’re talking to an accredited investor means that they understand not that they are decent enough to understand most of these things that they don’t. Some people just are fortunate to have money. So it’s always good to actually, yeah, it’s always good to break it down for them to let them understand what they actually get it, you know? You know, so if I send you the opposite, you’re going to see where we where we put. Why? Why pipeline investment would in 2040. So we talk about why this is better than you just invest in the stock. You know, the very, you know, that abysmal performance is coming from the debt markets less than four percent yield. You’re getting eight percent here, right? The safer investment compared to stock where you could lose your money overnight stock, but you didn’t lose your money by next year. You know, we’re covering tomorrow morning’s government wants to build your business out of business, your business out of business. So, so that part of a comment that we made on on that and we think and thinking about it actually makes sense. At times we make those assumptions that people that we’re talking to understand what we’re talking about, and I realize that people love to be to be informed even if they know before, right, they just want somebody else to come from whatever it is that they think they know.
Speaker1: [00:39:11] Yeah, because like generally, people wouldn’t be. And we were telling Laguna Capital this because people wouldn’t really be angry or anything if you make it easy to understand. Usually people, if you make it too complicated to understand and they don’t understand.
Speaker5: [00:39:26] Yeah, yeah.
Speaker1: [00:39:27] Because you can always explain the details. If somebody asks you for nothing material anyway and people don’t have time to look at the details up front anyway. So, yeah, that’s in line with everything we’ve seen. So people IRR and matter, obviously. Feel free to share your thoughts. I think we really this is just like a more refined version of what we what we just worked on before, but better returns.
Speaker3: [00:39:55] Yeah, yeah, I did. Just I did want one question. So I’m assuming that the the investor share of profit that you’re saying 70 to 80 percent. So usually the equity investors would be investing like 80 percent equity. So they have an 80 percent share in the project. But at the same time, we are saying a 70 percent like 70 to 80 percent investor share of profit. And I’m assuming that that is after deducting all the management, management expenses and other, you know, the like the the fees related to achieving an additional rate of return. So I’m just saying like, I think like if we can elaborate this this point as well, because the only time they would be getting that 70 percent return is going to be when, like the overall investment. Does do really well, you know, this is actually directly indirectly proportional to how much the investors would be making, like with respect to how much the total return for the project would be. So highlighting that I think could be beneficial for us.
Speaker5: [00:41:19] Okay, maybe I’ll rephrase it is just, you know, what we have is a world class cadet waterfall. So one investor I see, for instance, if they are to just 15 percent or less, they get 80 percent of the profit. If they achieve more than 15 percent, they get it, they get 70 percent and GDP gets 30 percent of it. So basically, that’s what that is.
Speaker3: [00:41:48] Yeah, exactly. So yeah, exactly. That’s what I’m saying. So I’m just saying if we can do, you know, like the 70 to 80 percent we can say, like, you know, we can like show that in the in brackets, you know? You know, if we are achieving 30 percent return like, however, the waterfall is so just like highlighting the the range of return, the total return. So I think that that would look promising because like an 80 percent industrial only, personally, I think that could help a little bit. Yeah, just just a subjective suggestion.
Speaker5: [00:42:23] Speaking. It’s great, great. Yeah, I’m doing great. Sorry. So. No. Yeah. Also. Okay, so what’s?
Speaker1: [00:43:04] Ok. These are just on the phone. Yeah.
Speaker5: [00:43:13] Okay. But have they had any discussion with you? What’s? Ok. All right, thank you. Thank you. All right. I’m starting to don’t how you got here. Yes. Sorry, I’m sorry about that. There’s someone else in this world I’m supposed to have a chat with by 3:30 that moved it to tomorrow. So I just got a call from from one of your contacts. So that’s why I just had to. Yeah, of course. I know what exactly what I did. You already know what I said tomorrow?
Speaker1: [00:44:03] Yeah, we want you to close this deal as soon as possible so
Speaker5: [00:44:06] You can take that call. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. So I just don’t want it to be so close to that, right? That’s why I decided to just put it eighty seven, eighteen thousand proper check to avoid. I’d rather have that discussion than to have it closed. You know, I don’t want everyone to be just too busy. I just want to keep it very simple. And I all I could just take it out altogether, but I think it has its merits been there.
Speaker3: [00:44:45] Yeah, most certainly it does. Yeah. So the only thing like that, like if it was me, I what I would have done is so like instead of like that 70 percent, it’s written. So just, you know, putting a parenthesis in the bracket like, you know, total return of, like whatever we expect when.
Speaker5: [00:45:06] Yeah, OK. Something. Got it. Yeah. Got it. Yeah, I think the way it is actually in the in the investors presentation, I remember what you’re saying. Yeah, you just put in parentheses less than this and that. Ok, I’ll do that. Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker3: [00:45:24] Thanks. Yeah. Because like because technically there would be even with 70 percent, the rate of return overall is going to be higher. So we would like to show that.
Speaker5: [00:45:39] Okay. Yeah. High school,
Speaker1: [00:45:44] If I can just jump into, like just more on me. So I was looking at the word potential potential, something to something income increase. I was looking at that sentence like, do you need to even? You can just say, can you not just say percentage increase? Because I mean, we are saying at the bottom, you are saying that, OK, stocks potentially lose your money. This likely not, which I think it’s a bit bold. So I mean, if you’re saying that, then you might as well remove the word potential.
Speaker5: [00:46:18] Yeah. Well, it’s a bit bold, but at the same time, if you look at it, you can. You could invest in stock today and tomorrow morning, you probably have lost 50 percent if you invest in a set of bonds now. Right? The likelihood of you losing your money overnight is very, very slim compared to invest in stock that I know for a fact. And because if you know that the market is not doing so great, you can easily get out and sell the property and your money or whatever it is, they can recover from it. In terms of stock, you have no control over what’s happening in terms of the property. You have control and decide to sell it stock. You have no control. You can sell the business just because the market is back. Somebody else is making those decisions.
Speaker1: [00:47:11] Yeah. Because you’re trying to communicate that it’s like less you’re trying to communicate like volatility versus stability.
Speaker5: [00:47:17] And yes, because
Speaker1: [00:47:19] I mean a meteorite,
Speaker5: [00:47:20] Right? And I do want to use volatility because you still want to communicate in the language that everybody understands. Not everyone understand what relativity is.
Speaker1: [00:47:32] Yes.
Speaker5: [00:47:35] The problem I was struggling with, I was okay, but volatility.
Speaker1: [00:47:41] Yeah. And I’m just amazed that some people shouldn’t have the amount of money that anyway. That’s why the investment questionnaires come in, right? Yeah. Kenneth is here as well. I think he has some thoughts to share.
Speaker5: [00:47:53] Yeah. I just want to share with you that there’s an old saying, if you throw mud, you’re going to get dirty as well. And so, you know, you’re an investment. Stocks are investment. You know, you’re you’re saying you’re more stable than stock. You know, you don’t want to say as a new investor, you know, because then you’re picking an attorney is probably putting in. You can lose money, you lose money. This is the best and you can’t lose money. Yeah, you got that. Is it a way? Ok, so it’s better to just say something more subtle, nice, no more or less. Ok.
Speaker1: [00:48:33] Potentially because because when like, there’s these subscription agreements, right, or investor KYC, AML, there’s always a disclaimer that says you can lose your money even though you probably won’t like. So I’m thinking from that perspective, there has to be a way that’s like that tells you how stable it is without kind of implying a guarantee that they will never lose money or never lose all their money. Yeah.
Speaker5: [00:48:58] Okay.
Speaker1: [00:49:00] So the thing is that people are putting money and we just want to know how we can do that. We could probably say we can use words like extremely, extremely stable or really stable relative to stocks, or almost very unlikely. Just some intensifier to to to say that. Is this is this the whole? I think it was.
Speaker5: [00:49:24] I think what you just said, that varies what the ideal thing to use and yeah, very predictable or stable or. Yeah, volatility. And being better.
Speaker1: [00:49:42] Yeah, that’s that’s just the whole compliance thing makes no sense, but then it’s it’s compliance, right? Because it’s like it’s really silly, but that’s just the way the politics of that.
Speaker3: [00:49:56] You can even mention something in the lines of, you know, a lower standard deviation or like lower like returns. But but I know that that gets a little too complicated.
Speaker2: [00:50:09] But but yeah,
Speaker5: [00:50:11] I mean, yeah, I
Speaker3: [00:50:14] Like the standard deviation. Yeah.
Speaker1: [00:50:20] Yeah, potentially. I’m sorry. Yeah, you got you got it.
Speaker5: [00:50:29] I thought a worse time, the worse. You can quote some periodicals as well known, you know? Yeah. And so does some authority. It’s not just saying it now, the magazine is saying, well, I would still look for a more positive way without using that. Okay.
Speaker1: [00:51:00] Yeah. Yeah, because overall, like Mandarin, people get a recommendation because, yeah, because it looks like you want to just keep it simple, too. So then maybe the standard is more like if they if they book a call and if they start drilling you. But then up front, you can, as Ken said, quoting, I don’t know who’s the target demographic that they look up to, but who knows, maybe it’s going to Ramsay? I’m not sure. And I think real estate is something where even the most uneducated people can do it and everyone can. It’s just something that makes people feel really, really comfortable because that’s really the points, right? It’s made people feel comfortable. Yeah.
Speaker5: [00:51:45] Ok.
Speaker1: [00:51:50] Other than that. Anything else you’re working on there?
Speaker5: [00:51:56] No, no, no, just the London paper, I think that should be out this evening to chase people every day, but hopefully be done today.
Speaker1: [00:52:11] There we go.
Speaker5: [00:52:12] Yeah. And when the the groundbreaker is coming? Yeah, I think I’ve uploaded some documents. I just need the banking details to come in so that I can put that on my wall. So I think everything is that perfect.
Speaker1: [00:52:34] And by that, you mean the worrying information for, like for the investors to send the money or.
Speaker5: [00:52:40] Yeah, of course, you know, your association agreements and all that, you need to have your banking details, otherwise you just have an agreement and no call to action. That’s the way you put the money. Exactly, exactly. Nobody’s interested in chasing you. But when you say that sort of that, OK, yeah, there’s something to do here, and I’m interested in it to invest. And I think on the platform as well, this is a place where you could just press interested and just do a follow up call after that. Oh, very nice.
Speaker1: [00:53:20] The concern in that agreement doesn’t mean doesn’t mean anything until until they actually take action.
Speaker5: [00:53:24] So there’s still like a little money in the bank until you sign that agreement and then the bank said.
Speaker1: [00:53:37] Ok. And then, I guess matter, any additional thoughts or anyone have any thoughts, because I think it’ll probably end up circling back to cold privately as well if course is still around after this.
Speaker5: [00:53:58] I have nothing. Thanks. Thank you.
Speaker1: [00:54:00] Yep, no worries, no worries, sir.
Speaker5: [00:54:02] All right. And thanks for the email.
Speaker3: [00:54:04] Working on it now?
Speaker1: [00:54:06] All right, perfect.
Speaker3: [00:54:11] Yeah, not think nothing from my end as well.
Speaker5: [00:54:14] Ok, I’m good, thank you, guys.
Speaker1: [00:54:17] No worries. Tell you what, we can take care of you offline, like just if you can just stay in this matter and I and then and then the rest of you, we can see you on. See you on the next email, correspondence or call.
Speaker5: [00:54:31] So all right, guys.
Speaker1: [00:54:34] All right. Thank you. Cheers. All right, Colts. So.
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